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Post by Neo on Jul 17, 2017 19:39:56 GMT -6
That wording is confusing, like all of Rifts, but it's referring to normal combat turn order. You don't roll Initiative again whenever you cast a spell, that would give both enemies and allies extra actions, would be insane, and would make no sense.
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Post by Malefio on Jul 17, 2017 20:13:22 GMT -6
Welp, no need to use the rule, because yeah, it's confusing.
What I personally get from it is that you make an initiative roll not to actually restart initiative, but just to see if you can interrupt the spell.
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Post by Neo on Jul 17, 2017 20:22:04 GMT -6
We'll, first of all, Instant cast spells cannot be interrupted. For obvious reasons. And like I said before, channel spells can be interrupted normally.
That interpretation makes no sense. Say I try to cast the spell Lightblade. The nearest enemy is 30 feet away from me. According to that, say I roll Initiative to cast a spell that only costs 1 action and roll low. The enemy rolls higher. Does it immediately get to teleport 30 feet and interrupt my spell? Of course not. That makes no sense.
All this talk will do is confuse Mystic more.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jul 17, 2017 20:25:53 GMT -6
I think it means that other spellcasters and people with shooty guns and people next to you can try to interrupt it. I got the impression it meant for out-of-combat. Basically that if you tried to sucker-punch someone with a spell there's a chance they could go full spaghetti western and try to draw first.
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Post by Neo on Jul 17, 2017 20:27:16 GMT -6
I think it means that other spellcasters and people with shooty guns and people next to you can try to interrupt it. I got the impression it meant for out-of-combat. Basically that if you tried to sucker-punch someone with a spell there's a chance they could go full spaghetti western and try to draw first. Hmm. You're right, that makes more sense.
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Post by SpringForest on Jul 17, 2017 21:33:41 GMT -6
Oh nooooooooo I'm too tired for any of this not to sound like just...word soup.
I'll read it later.
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Post by Malefio on Jul 18, 2017 4:19:44 GMT -6
You don't need to, we're just speculating on a confusing rule we don't even want you to use
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Post by SummerCrow on Jul 18, 2017 4:32:48 GMT -6
You don't need to, we're just speculating on a confusing rule we don't even want you to use Speak for yourself. With some of those higher-level spells, being able to interrupt them's the only prayer non-spellcasters have.
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Post by Malefio on Jul 18, 2017 4:44:44 GMT -6
The rule we're talking about is for level 1-5 spells though.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jul 18, 2017 4:56:47 GMT -6
Oh, that one. I thought you meant the whole discussion. It pretty much boils down to if you're overtly casting a spell it's the same as pulling a gun on someone or something: roll initiative 'cause you just started a fight.
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Post by Neo on Jul 18, 2017 5:40:40 GMT -6
Pretty much what Birdy said. I posted the rules on interrupting spells normally on the last page. It's actually really simple when you finally get past the terrible wording that plagues Rifts.
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Post by SpringForest on Jul 19, 2017 21:52:51 GMT -6
...I'm having a hard time finding a map for hippie angel big city. If anyone finds any that might work, please help.
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Post by Neo on Jul 19, 2017 21:58:42 GMT -6
...I'm having a hard time finding a map for hippie angel big city. If anyone finds any that might work, please help. Kaaaaay. I'll look for you.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jul 19, 2017 21:59:08 GMT -6
(I already tried)
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Post by Neo on Jul 19, 2017 22:17:17 GMT -6
Miiiisty, GX is making you a custom map.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jul 19, 2017 22:26:59 GMT -6
Are all the players other than Mal a GM at this point...?
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Post by Neo on Jul 19, 2017 22:37:59 GMT -6
Are all the players other than Mal a GM at this point...? No. GX is making the map in Schism and I'm going to transmog it over.
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Post by GX1997 on Jul 19, 2017 23:34:36 GMT -6
"Misty is going to be alright with it. He'll just have to look at it first. 'This is fine.' Thisisfine.jpg" - Neo
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Post by GX1997 on Jul 19, 2017 23:41:43 GMT -6
"Oh my God what have you done." - Neo, while dying laughing "Misty is going to have a heart attack when he sees this in the discussion thread." - Also Neo Neo is trying to find a foo dog statue on a transparent background, because it will complete the map, apparently. "I think Crow is going to have elevated concerns when he sees this." "Are you just posting everything I say at this point?" Sorry, you're just summing this up too well.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jul 19, 2017 23:48:27 GMT -6
Crow likes Foo dogs! If you summon a Hellhound but tell people it's a Foo dog, it makes them not want to kill you. I'm all for Foo dogs. Foo dog it up.
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