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Post by Neo on Jun 13, 2015 15:14:38 GMT -6
Niiiiiice, Lumi. You're actually on the right track, you just don't know it. Because you're the first to actually attempt to solve it, and you're doing so well, I'll give you a couple hints. Hint: Pay close attention to the mechanics. Why have I capitalized a certain word? Hint: The past is something to respect and value, but it is not as important as the future. Now, as far as what groups of three we have... Well, that should be pretty obvious, hmm?  I'll be updating soon. |
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Post by luminescence on Jun 13, 2015 19:11:34 GMT -6
Wait, I am? Sure doesn't feel like it. I seemingly have important questions, but not a whole lot of answers.
Mechanics? As in, meter and rhyme and stuff? Or game mechanics? I'm inclined to the latter, given the second part of your sentence, but still.
"Nine" is capitalized. I was assuming it was the Council of Nine, as that the only real "Nine" we have. Why and how was the meaning of life lost to them? And why does it matter?
The past, ey? Seems I'm going to have to read this through. Again. Is this the Nine's past (and future)? Or ours?
Nope, still not sure. The only three popping up right now in my head is the three unpaired males we have, and that's not going to be the answer. Does anyone have something stupidly obvious I'm missing? Or it could be Trail/Ethan/Rhia? Hmm.
Your hints only give me more questions. I'm going to try re-reading the riddle and perhaps the CYOA. Maybe that might give me more insight.
A deceptive choice,
A seductive voice.
Can you uncode,
Given time,
The meaning of life,
Lost to the Nine?
Or will you do, as lights and illusions do,
And reduce your number back down to two?
Hurry now, tarry not.
For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot.
How do "lights and illusions" reduce? How are we like them? What significance does the number two have? Is reducing it back down to two good or bad? I think it's bad, as it's presented as an alternative to presumably "finding the meaning of life" and solving the riddle. What number are we at now? Zero? Then how do we reduce zero to two? The clock is ticking, but exactly how long to we have? Does the hangman's knot/noose have any significance besides death/bad things? I read somewhere that nooses often have thirteen coils. Does that mean anything?
I'm baffled.
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Post by Neo on Jun 13, 2015 19:20:53 GMT -6
Wait, I am? Sure doesn't feel like it. I seemingly have important questions, but not a whole lot of answers. Mechanics? As in, meter and rhyme and stuff? Or game mechanics? I'm inclined to the latter, given the second part of your sentence, but still. "Nine" is capitalized. I was assuming it was the Council of Nine, as that the only real "Nine" we have. Why and how was the meaning of life lost to them? And why does it matter? The past, ey? Seems I'm going to have to read this through. Again. Is this the Nine's past (and future)? Or ours? Your hints only give me more questions. I'm going to try re-reading the riddle and perhaps the CYOA. Maybe that might give me more insight. Remember Lumi, the "Nine" can also be used to refer to the individual members of the Council, the Culture's ruling body. It is not only a number, but a title. So, with that in mind, who is the only Council member we're dealing with right now, in the story...? The meaning of life lost to... Also, if you read my post a bit more closely, you'll see I say the future is more important than the past. |
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Post by luminescence on Jun 13, 2015 19:29:29 GMT -6
Yeah, I know. The wording was a bit off.
Charon, correct? Like I said, I have some re-(re-re-re-re-)reading to do to find out Charon(?)'s goals. And the deal with the meaning of life.
I edited by above post with even more questions, if you'd like to take a look. I need all the help I can muster.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jun 13, 2015 19:32:29 GMT -6
I've said it once, I'll say it again. I. Got. Nothin'.
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Post by luminescence on Jun 13, 2015 19:40:02 GMT -6
I've said it once, I'll say it again. I. Got. Nothin'. Absolutely nothing? I've got a whole bunch of questions maybe you can help answer. See previous posts. |
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Post by Neo on Jun 13, 2015 19:54:07 GMT -6
It's not Charon, it's Ephidel we're dealing with right now. I will say that much, cause technically, you should already know that. And Ephidel is a Necromancer, something which you should also already know.
As for the three... Sonia, Nyx, and Garth. Nagi, Vex, and Jet. Sonia, Eren, and Priam. Those are your most recent pairs of three. The riddle only encompasses Nagi's Paralogue.
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Post by luminescence on Jun 13, 2015 20:02:07 GMT -6
The Council's names all sorta... blend together. Charon, Ephidel- all still creepy cult-ish people with dubious motives.
The riddle is for this Paralogue only? That helps lots, thanks. I may have less to read through.
I'm sorry, I'm tired and this is kind of blending together. Thanks for putting up with my dumb attempts to solve this riddle. I appreciate it.
Perhaps some sleep will help.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jun 13, 2015 20:30:20 GMT -6
The Council's names all sorta... blend together. Charon, Ephidel- all still creepy cult-ish people with dubious motives. The riddle is for this Paralogue only? That helps lots, thanks. I may have less to read through. I'm sorry, I'm tired and this is kind of blending together. Thanks for putting up with my dumb attempts to solve this riddle. I appreciate it. Perhaps some sleep will help. Hm... Well, of all your questions, there's only one I have any idea about. The hanging meaning bit. In tarot, the Hanged Man is specifically a traitor. Someone who betrayed zaa Culture? Who will betray you? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 20:56:01 GMT -6
Priam?
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Post by Neo on Jun 13, 2015 22:02:08 GMT -6
The Council's names all sorta... blend together. Charon, Ephidel- all still creepy cult-ish people with dubious motives. The riddle is for this Paralogue only? That helps lots, thanks. I may have less to read through. I'm sorry, I'm tired and this is kind of blending together. Thanks for putting up with my dumb attempts to solve this riddle. I appreciate it. Perhaps some sleep will help. Hm... Well, of all your questions, there's only one I have any idea about. The hanging meaning bit. In tarot, the Hanged Man is specifically a traitor. Someone who betrayed zaa Culture? Who will betray you? Ooooooooooh.... Smart crow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 22:40:43 GMT -6
Priam, Eren, or Garth. It is one of them. I know it.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jun 13, 2015 22:44:36 GMT -6
Surely, Neo won't do something as simple as Os. Where hair color provided the answer.
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Post by Neo on Jun 13, 2015 22:55:29 GMT -6
Surely, Neo won't do something as simple as Os. Where hair color provided the answer. Or would I? *Chuckles* This is exactly why my riddles are so difficult. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 23:07:27 GMT -6
..... I'm lacking on character hair color. Does anyone know the nine characters hair color?
Also, is it not odd that the Culture has nine members... And we have nine as well?
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Post by Piomega on Jun 15, 2015 14:49:23 GMT -6
Hmm... Firstly, you could definitely make this into a copyrighted novel. Remove the word 'manakete' and replace it with dragonkin, 'laguz' with skin changer. Etc. A lot of work would need to be done, but much less than gas already been done.
Secondly, "A deceptive choice,
A seductive voice.
Can you uncode,
Given time,
The meaning of life,
Lost to the Nine?
Or will you do, as lights and illusions do,
And reduce your number back down to two?
Hurry now, tarry not.
For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot."
Well Priam has been brought back to life by... um... The guy. He has betrayed that same guy, and as has been deduced, he might betray us too. Nagi clearly thinks he's seductive, and he seems to be entirely shadow. He hasn't truly been brought back to life. The Nine have forgotten how to do that. So...
A deceptive choice, (Priam tells us something)
A seductive voice. (Priam)
Can you uncode,
Given time,
The meaning of life, (a way to bring back life, some kind of rune code?)
Lost to the Nine? (The enemy)
Or will you do, as lights and illusions do, (Priam)
And reduce your number back down to two? (Just us and Sonia)
Hurry now, tarry not.
For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot.
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Post by Neo on Jun 15, 2015 15:05:32 GMT -6
Hmm... Firstly, you could definitely make this into a copyrighted novel. Remove the word 'manakete' and replace it with dragonkin, 'laguz' with skin changer. Etc. A lot of work would need to be done, but much less than gas already been done. Secondly, "A deceptive choice, A seductive voice. Can you uncode, Given time, The meaning of life, Lost to the Nine? Or will you do, as lights and illusions do, And reduce your number back down to two? Hurry now, tarry not. For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot." Well Priam has been brought back to life by... um... The guy. He has betrayed that same guy, and as has been deduced, he might betray us too. Nagi clearly thinks he's seductive, and he seems to be entirely shadow. He hasn't truly been brought back to life. The Nine have forgotten how to do that. So... A deceptive choice, (Priam tells us something) A seductive voice. (Priam) Can you uncode, Given time, The meaning of life, (a way to bring back life, some kind of rune code?) Lost to the Nine? (The enemy) Or will you do, as lights and illusions do, (Priam) And reduce your number back down to two? (Just us and Sonia) Hurry now, tarry not. For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot. Don't you mean Sonia? You have no idea just how ironic that little typo really is.  Unfortunately, the overall plot of UB is far too intertwined with Fire Emblem lore. In order to avoid copyright, I would have to change a massive portion of the plot, and even a few of the characters and their backstories, and at that point, it just wouldn't be UB anymore. Also, I will say this: You have the general idea, and a couple things right, but don't make the mistake of thinking the entire riddle refers to Priam. |
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Post by luminescence on Jun 15, 2015 17:54:00 GMT -6
Hmm... Firstly, you could definitely make this into a copyrighted novel. Remove the word 'manakete' and replace it with dragonkin, 'laguz' with skin changer. Etc. A lot of work would need to be done, but much less than gas already been done. Secondly, "A deceptive choice, A seductive voice. Can you uncode, Given time, The meaning of life, Lost to the Nine? Or will you do, as lights and illusions do, And reduce your number back down to two? Hurry now, tarry not. For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot." Well Priam has been brought back to life by... um... The guy. He has betrayed that same guy, and as has been deduced, he might betray us too. Nagi clearly thinks he's seductive, and he seems to be entirely shadow. He hasn't truly been brought back to life. The Nine have forgotten how to do that. So... A deceptive choice, (Priam tells us something) A seductive voice. (Priam) Can you uncode, Given time, The meaning of life, (a way to bring back life, some kind of rune code?) Lost to the Nine? (The enemy) Or will you do, as lights and illusions do, (Priam) And reduce your number back down to two? (Just us and Sonia) Hurry now, tarry not. For the clock is ticking, on the hangman's knot. I can add on to this using what we know: The "Nine" is specifically Ephidel. Him being a necromancer is probably important. So are his future goals. The "meaning of life" (which could possibly be how to create/bring back life) is lost to him. It may or may not be the answer to the riddle. "Back down to two" means someone's dying. Priam? Maybe. We can probably change "hangman's knot" to "hanged man's knot", like the tarot card symbolizing betrayal and traits. Who the betrayer is and what they are betraying is yet to be seen. The riddle isn't fully about Priam. Also, reminder: WE NEED TO PAIR NINA. PROBABLY WITH MITHOS. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 20:54:01 GMT -6
piomega... Who exactly are you? Sorry for prying, just curious. Also, Neo is right. Really hard to change the plot of something so deeply intertwined in FE lore.
EDIT: Going on from that riddle, it is mainly about Ephidel and Priam, right? Or are we missing someone in their past?
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Post by Neo on Jun 15, 2015 21:09:13 GMT -6
Pio's just a chill dude who comes on to vote in UB from time to time. And thank you Lumi, for doing a Nina Reminder for me. Fortunately, we may not need them for much longer. Once we go to the Laguz Village, Nina will get a lot more screen time. And you could pair her with Mori, a Fox Laguz you meet there, too. Nina actually develops a massive crush on him, so they're a really cute pair. And since he's longterm plot relevant, pairing Nina with Mori will actually make her relevant as well. It would even make her kid, Rex, a fairly decent unit. Just be aware that Mori is much older than her, so you'd have to be okay with that. Aaaaaaanyway, cause I'm a nice dragon, I will tell you guys that, together, you've already discovered everything about the riddle you can for now. The rest of the hints will be in the very near future. I probably won't update until tomorrow. |
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