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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 1:19:09 GMT -6
I thought A was the fast-forward button?
And Noire can get all of Lon'qu's classes, but Sniper should have equal or greater skill than the assassin.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 1:20:29 GMT -6
L lets you skip the battle cutscene. Everything gets played out in sprite form. I'm basically holding A and L constantly throughout playing now.
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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 1:22:20 GMT -6
Oh. I just turned off the animations entirely so I don't have to hold the button.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 1:25:51 GMT -6
...I should look at the options screen at some point.
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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 1:40:30 GMT -6
YOU CAN EVEN CHANGE WHAT MUSIC PLAYS IN SKIRMISHES!
It's pretty nice. Not to mention that if you mess with the options in the Premonition chapter, you can unlock Pair Up no matter your difficulty.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 1:57:52 GMT -6
Noire and Tharja A rank. Aw...Tharja's sudden OOC just barely makes up for her future abuses in Noire's past. Lissa and Libra are now at S-rank! they suit each other somehow. I can't really put my finger on it. Maybe it's bias. Paralogue 5: Scion of Legend.
Owain eh? Yay, another son and oh my god he's robin hood....there was a previous Fire Emblem called Radiant Dawn right? I think I'm missing some references here. Hm...these are usually hard. I'll go with my A team, just changing up some supports. YES, thank you Owain for cutting right to the chase. "I'm your kid from the future". Severa, take notes. There is a tome called "Aversa's Night"...why do I feel like its dark arts are full of Plegian erotica...? Anyways, that was an easy mission. Sacred Stones. That's a FE game too right? And...an issue is raised that I didn't even know existed. Still, good to know. Support Time! Owain and Lissa...wait did OWain just say "my sword hand twitches"...anyways, stuff happens. Ahahaha Libra is definitely a good father for Owain. CAN'T....CONTROL!!! Henry and Mribelle ranked up. Henry speaks to flowers. Of course. Ahahaha maggots. Lissa and Donnel ranked up to B. Donnel made some traps...the same kind he made with Robin? Donnel, stop flirting with your wife's lover's little sister.
Chrom:
S - Maribelle
A - Robin, Sumia
B - Frederick, Cordelia, Lucina
C - Lissa, Sully, Vaike, Brady
Robin:
S - Donnel
A - Lissa, Lon'qu, Lucina, Morgan
C - Frederick, Virion, Maribelle, Panne, Cordelia, Sumia, Noire
Lissa:
S - Libra
B - Vaike, Gaius, Maribelle, Donnel
C - Henry, Gregor, Owain
Frederick:
S - Sumia
C - Virion, Maribelle, Cordelia, Cynthia
Maribelle:
B - Lon'qu
C - Lucina, Brady, Henry
Lon'qu:
S - Tharja
A - Noire
C - Cordelia
Cordelia:
S - Henry
C - Panne, Gaius
Nowi:
B - Ricken, Gregor, Vaike
C - Libra, Gaius, Virion, Kellam
Miriel:
A - Ricken
C - Stahl, Kellam, Gregor
Stahl:
A - Sully
C - Kjelle
Tharja:
A - Noire
Donnel:
A - Kellam
C - Morgan
Olivia:
C - Kellam, Gaius, Libra, Gregor, Vaike, Virion
Cherche:
C - Gregor, Gaius, Virion, Vaike, Kellam
Panne:
C – Virion, Gregor, Gaius, Vaike,
Tiki:
B - Anna
Lucina:
C - Brady, Morgan
Cynthia:
C - Sumia
Kjelle:
C - Sully
Severa:
C - Henry
Owain:
C- Libra
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 3:14:36 GMT -6
Chapter 22: An Ill PresageTo the Dragon's Table! ...sorry, shaking off a Narnia vibe. Oooh, nice touch. Are these guys all commanders I've defeated before? Very nice. Anyways, come to me Aversa! Wreck yourself on Donnel like all those before you! ...Nah, let's prolong a little bit. Oh. Noire can snipe Aversa from out of her range. Like most commanders. Whee~ Chapter 23: Invisible TiesSo what's the deal with that other Robin that Validar keeps around? And shouldn't the blurry screen effect be in play if Robin's getting controlled? S-ranks > Drak Dragon. Fact. Yaaaay! It's the tutorial. Bring it! Woo, Lucina double triggered Aether. And Chrom Critical Aether'd Validar in the face! Deja vu. Lucina's all angsty and Sam L. Jackson's alive! Haha, I admit I didn't see the whole "dead people under the radar" thing, but I was pretty sure Chrom's death would be staged. ...or Robin would just hope she could control herself enough not to turn him into scrambled. Oh yeah, she totally planned for that. Question: How could Validar be using the power of Grima to assemble the Grimleal if the Fire emblem was a fake? I mean, there's Placebo, and then there's...magic Kool-aid? YAY! I get Basilio and Flavia in my party! Lets see what they can do...eh, inferior to Donnel, but who isn't? Ahahaha, a big armor guy attacked Lon'qu, who would normally do 0 damage in return...but Lethality fixed that. I love this skill. Pretty straight forward battle. I lost Cordelia to an archer, but whatever, I'm used to it by now. Snipey snipe. Good thing you're tough Validar, no way I'm going to let Noire get the final hit on you. Nope, that's gotta be DONNEL! YEEEE HAW! AVENGE YOUR WIFE! AXE TO THE FACE! Ah, there's other-Robin. I suppose being host to a dark dragon means you don't age? I don't get it...Grima is a thing in Lucina's time, so why is there still a human Robin? Did Grima take human form to travel back in time? Does this mean Morgan's dragon-spawn? OH MY GOD, DONNEL ****ED A DRAGON! YES! Oh, so Validar failing an assassination attempt wasn't a case of Bassilo syndrome? Why not? makes things less convoluted. Anyways, giant dragon running amok... Support Time! Lissa and Lon'qu C rank...this is kinda cute. In another file I might have gone down this route, but alas, the game threw Tharja at Lon'qu and it stuck. Henry and Sumia C-rank, and hummina hummina hummina HE CAN REVERSE TIME? Why can't he do that on the battlefield again? Cordelia and Libra...and she's suddenly become Sumia. I do like the pebble running gag though. Flavia and Basilio rank up, of course. Basilio is the oldest human here? I wish he could support with Nowi...why the hell can't they S-rank with each other? Noire and Morgan C rank, and why are all of the daughters afraid of bugs? I think my bias is for Noire/Morgan honestly, just cause I love both Noire and my Donnel!Dragonspawn. Anyways, that's all for now.
Chrom:
S - Maribelle
A - Robin, Sumia
B - Frederick, Cordelia, Lucina
C - Lissa, Sully, Vaike, Brady
Robin:
S - Donnel
A - Lissa, Lon'qu, Lucina, Morgan
C - Frederick, Virion, Maribelle, Panne, Cordelia, Sumia, Noire
Lissa:
S - Libra
B - Vaike, Gaius, Maribelle, Donnel
C - Henry, Gregor, Owain, Lon'qu
Frederick:
S - Sumia
C - Virion, Maribelle, Cordelia, Cynthia
Maribelle:
B - Lon'qu
C - Lucina, Brady, Henry
Lon'qu:
S - Tharja
A - Noire
C - Cordelia
Cordelia:
S - Henry
C - Panne, Gaius, Libra
Nowi:
B - Ricken, Gregor, Vaike
C - Libra, Gaius, Virion, Kellam
Miriel:
A - Ricken
C - Stahl, Kellam, Gregor
Stahl:
A - Sully
C - Kjelle
Tharja:
A - Noire
Donnel:
A - Kellam
C - Morgan
Olivia:
C - Kellam, Gaius, Libra, Gregor, Vaike, Virion
Cherche:
C - Gregor, Gaius, Virion, Vaike, Kellam
Panne:
C – Virion, Gregor, Gaius, Vaike,
Sumia:
C - Henry
Tiki:
B - Anna
Flavia:
C - Basilio
Lucina:
C - Brady, Morgan
Noire:
C - Morgan
Cynthia:
C - Sumia
Kjelle:
C - Sully
Severa:
C - Henry
Owain:
C- Libra
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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 10:57:48 GMT -6
Noire and Tharja A rank. Aw...Tharja's sudden OOC just barely makes up for her future abuses in Noire's past. Listen here you little s***, don't make me educate you on this. I will, I f***ing will. Don't. Push. Me.Radiant Dawn and Sacred Stones were previous FE games, yes. Anytime you need to understand his references, just ask. The Deadlords aren't people you've killed before, unless you played FE4. Basically, they're a cameo. I think I'd read an FE:A fanfic once that centered around dragon riding/f***ing... And Henry's time reversal doesn't seem like it'd be too useful in combat, since it just applies to an object and you don't get to break walls or anything in this game. |
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 12:00:53 GMT -6
I'll do the Noire/Robin support before forming a conclusion.
Is Owain's pose and hand gimmick a reference to anything?
Even if Henry can't reverse people, breaking weapons is a core mechanic isn't it? Infinite Dying Blaze!
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Feb 4, 2015 12:16:52 GMT -6
The scene in Chapter 21 between Robin and Lucina actually is different, you know. If Robin is her mother or husband, the dialogue is changed to reflect that. Just saying.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 12:23:47 GMT -6
I'll look it up later, but in that case Lucina is even more of an idiot if she still wants to kill Robin.
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Feb 4, 2015 12:31:26 GMT -6
I'll look it up later, but in that case Lucina is even more of an idiot if she still wants to kill Robin. Aaaand no one's saying she isn't.  But in those versions, Chrom doesn't have to step in, because she can't bring herself to do it. I think they also change the music. I don't remember if ID Sorrow plays in the normal version of the scene or not. |
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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 17:35:03 GMT -6
I'll do the Noire/Robin support before forming a conclusion. Is Owain's pose and hand gimmick a reference to anything? Even if Henry can't reverse people, breaking weapons is a core mechanic isn't it? Infinite Dying Blaze! Their support doesn't really reflect on Tharja's parenting much, mostly Noire looking for someone to actually act like a motherly figure, since Tharja doesn't (you should've already seen that she's reluctant to show she cares). No. Ah... Hm. Hmmmm... Dammit, HHD, you broke the game again. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 18:30:39 GMT -6
I'd like to note the dead lords do indeed come from FE4.
And yes, in Awakening, try are a cameo.
But I believe one of the DLC's implies they are the dead parents of 2nd gen from the bad future.
The general is supposedly Chrom.
In fact, Severa comments on one, which is a Pegasus Knight, crying upon seeing.
Most of the 2nd gen have that reaction. It's the one with all the legendary weapons in chests.
Tiki even makes a remark about it.
1st gen don't get that option for some odd reason. I'm pretty sure Chrom would recognize his kingdoms famous lance...
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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 18:58:05 GMT -6
Chrom's kingdom doesn't really have a famous lance, and he doesn't really use one anyway.
Aversa's intro speech on the map states that, though these Deadlords have the same name as hers, their bodies are different than the ones she sent against the player.
Also, no Deadlord is a Peg Knight, Falcon Knight or Dark Flier.
And the dialogue is the same no matter which Deadlord you approach.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 19:16:55 GMT -6
Chrom's kingdom doesn't really have a famous lance, and he doesn't really use one anyway. Aversa's intro speech on the map states that, though these Deadlords have the same name as hers, their bodies are different than the ones she sent against the player. Also, no Deadlord is a Peg Knight, Falcon Knight or Dark Flier. And the dialogue is the same no matter which Deadlord you approach. The lance Marth received from Camus after his defeat? I'm pretty sure the general was wielding it. I believe it fell into Marth's hand, so.... Yeah. And also, that's interesting. |
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Post by AlmosDug on Feb 4, 2015 19:23:19 GMT -6
Yeah, but then all the Regalia is just GONE story-wise. Not to mention Hardin ended up with it for 3/12. So who can really say where it went from there?
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 20:39:31 GMT -6
I get the feeling I'm nearing the end. As Donnel might say, let's git'er done! Chapter 24: AwakeningYou know...they never did explain what the Risen are. Grima-spawn? Zombies? My head canon is that they're actually time paradox police here to stop Lucina from messing with established events. Anyways, these guys are done with. Another table? Why do dragons like tables so much? And...Naga is actually MILF mode Tiki and Chrom taking on this harrowing trial of summoning is completely off screen. Where does Naga's fire come form? Does the woman breathe it? Are those blue sparklies actually fire? Fairy-typed Falchion get! So we reseal Grima by having Chrom deal the finishing blow...does it work if he's paired with Donnel who gets the finishing blow? Chapter 25: To Slay a GodOk, so if Robin finishes Grima then Grima dies, but Robin can live through the power of S-ranks. I like how little voices that accompany dialogue boxes are almost always inappropriate for the dire situations they're in, but work perfectly for the Support convos. Promise not to sacrifice myself? ...I intend to have Donnel kill Grima with a Ladle so...no promises. Here come the Grimleal! Beeline for Aversa! C'mon Noire, lets cheat the system again. I'm just advancing forwards in one big mob, while they recklessly try to attack the "weak" of my team...like Lon'qu who procs Vantage Lethality way more often than reasonable, and Robin because they like eating Thorons. WOAH! Mire hit me! Cool! Anyways, BLOOD AND THUNDER! Lethality from Noire, Aversa is down. Question: Why does Grima need 6 eyes? Two isn't sufficient? Let's go climb your giant evil wife Donnel. Support Time! Lissa and Chrom's B rank feels like it should be the C rank to start this story. Robin and Anna C-rank...I want to see the male Robin version of this. Robin and Henry C-rank...and yay Henry's acting like his usual self. If Robin marries him, do they become lab partners? Tiki and Say'ri C rank...and Tiki is narcoleptic. Gotcha. Lucina and her mom Maribelle are going dress shopping before engaging the Fell Dragon to determine the fate of the world. Lucina...wants Maribelle to wear a see-through lace dress, or wrap her in octopus print. Didn't think she was the type. Noire and Morgan B rank...I want to see Morgan react to psycho Noire. Hmph.
Chrom:
S - Maribelle
A - Robin, Sumia
B - Frederick, Cordelia, Lucina, Lissa
C - Sully, Vaike, Brady, Anna, Henry
Robin:
S - Donnel
A - Lissa, Lon'qu, Lucina, Morgan
C - Frederick, Virion, Maribelle, Panne, Cordelia, Sumia, Noire
Lissa:
S - Libra
B - Vaike, Gaius, Maribelle, Donnel
C - Henry, Gregor, Owain, Lon'qu
Frederick:
S - Sumia
C - Virion, Maribelle, Cordelia, Cynthia
Maribelle:
B - Lon'qu, Lucina
C - Brady, Henry
Lon'qu:
S - Tharja
A - Noire
C - Cordelia
Cordelia:
S - Henry
C - Panne, Gaius, Libra
Nowi:
B - Ricken, Gregor, Vaike
C - Libra, Gaius, Virion, Kellam
Miriel:
A - Ricken
C - Stahl, Kellam, Gregor
Stahl:
A - Sully
C - Kjelle
Tharja:
A - Noire
Donnel:
A - Kellam
C - Morgan
Olivia:
C - Kellam, Gaius, Libra, Gregor, Vaike, Virion
Cherche:
C - Gregor, Gaius, Virion, Vaike, Kellam
Panne:
C – Virion, Gregor, Gaius, Vaike,
Sumia:
C - Henry
Tiki:
B - Anna
Flavia:
C - Basilio
Lucina:
C - Brady, Morgan
Noire:
B - Morgan
Cynthia:
C - Sumia
Kjelle:
C - Sully
Severa:
C - Henry
Owain:
C- Libra
I'm pretty sure this is the final level, but seeing as I still haven't gotten all the children....ah, whatever, let's finish this. |
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Post by Neo on Feb 4, 2015 20:54:24 GMT -6
You can still play the game after defeating Grima HD, so you can get the other children after. Reloading your save file after defeating Grima will allow you to continue playing from before you challenged Grima.
There are also extra Paralogues you can access via Spotpass. Have you done so yet?
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 4, 2015 21:49:43 GMT -6
Endgame: Grima
...how do we even get up on the dragon's back?
PFT ahaha, reduce everyone 1 hp before the first turn. I like when they play with the formula. Ah...let's submit to Grima, although something tells me that Robin would get swept into that void regardles sof my answer.
See? Power of naked encounters. Totally beats Fell Dragon of Darkness. I'm going to have to beat the game again after I get all the children to see the full scenes though...or is it just those who have supports with Robin that show up here?
Question: Why can't Naga just heal us constantly? Alright chums, let's do this LEEROOOO- sorry...DOOOOOOONNEL...uh...POTONHEAAAAAAD! I'm pairing everyone up with their spouses just for the heck of it...for the final battle, I'm finding this music underwhelming. Sorry. I expecting Latin Chanting!
Oh HELL YES Sumia. She took an Arrow the face, survived with 1 HP, and then proceeded to take on the ENTIRE MAP of Grimleal who came after her without dying thanks to Frederick blocking or her evading. I knew she'd eventually build up an immunity to arrows. She took on ALL of the next ones! I'm so proud of her. Man I'm so lucky.
COME AT ME GRIMA! YOU ARE GRIMA! YOU ARE DESPAIR! YOU HAVE A 5% CHANCE OF SCRATCHING DONNEL! And now the dragon, while in mid flight, is turning her head around 180 degrees to fight Donnle and Robin. In mid flight. Shouldn't she be looking where she's going?
Woah, she lasted a turn. Grima's combat rating is 205...and Donnel's is 267. Sorry if I sound like a broken record about Donnel but I just love mah OP farmer boy. And whaddya know, Robin stole the kill on Grima from him with a Pair Up attack. Darn...oh well. I guess it's Robin's sacrifice anyways.
...ah, the choice isn't a gameplay one...it's a dialogue box. Anyways, no way am I letting Chrom be the hero here. Robin, take her out.
Aw man, I was hoping Robin would kill herself, therefore time paradoxing Grima out of existence. Hmph. And I do like how this incredibly slim chance you could maybe kill Grima with her own power is pretty much a sure thing the closer we actually get the event. So wait...did Robin get vaporized or...do we have her body? Or something? Henry might be able to do something if we have her body.
...I didn't say it would be something Chrom would like.
Let me guess, she's gonna be back and we'll find her in that same field from the beginning of the game. And it's sweet that everyone has something to say...but wow it gets tedious after the first twenty or so. Wait, she didn't have Morgan yet...how is he still here?
Oooh, lets see who my heroes were. Lots of Chrom, lots of Robin, lots of Frederick and Sumia together. And right here around chapter 12 Donnel starts showing up, followed by combinations of Lon'qu, Tharja, and Noire.
And now for the character epilogues. Very nice. I should have gotten more couples, now I'll have to beat the last level again. Sucks to see that Tharja doesn't care for Feroxi living though. Oh my god, "sticky fingers" for a thief never even occurred to me. Cherche's true love is her wyvern, obviously. Brady's a musician...? I should do some of his supports. And the fact that they never mentioned Donnel kind of spoils the fact they're saving his for when Robin comes back...and aw man he becomes a footnote! Not fair.
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