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Post by GX1997 on Jan 30, 2015 17:55:10 GMT -6
FrederickXCordelia is bad mojo. Don't do it. That was my second pairing ever, only after ChromXRobin That said, Emppy is right. It's not as bad as some people say, but it is still really bad. Although, it could be interesting if you're one of those people who likes to watch horrible trainwrecks.
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Post by HHDeception on Jan 30, 2015 21:26:36 GMT -6
Oh yeah, Donnel is a Merc now. He's Luke and Han rolled into one! It's a shame neither of his classes can use lances though
Chapter 11: Mad King Gangrel
I prefer Good King Moggle Mog personally, but tan Joker has flair at least. Ah, the old "Heroic Sacrifice actually has PR implications" trick. Actually never mind, not enough stories I've heard do that. It's a shame that it feels like the game undersells absolutely every scene.
...or maybe that's just my cynicism.
Chrom, Robin, Donnel, Anna, Lissa, Frederick, Lon'qu, Maribelle, Tharja, Cordelia, Sumia, Panne, Kellam. Let's go!
Hm, ok and Olivia. Been a while since I've seen the tutorial screens.
I don't have much to say in the way of the battle so far. I'm playing super cautious...which makes for a boring fight. There are enemies dropping in constantly though so it keeps me occupied. I'm not really getting into Olivia's strategic potential yet. I'm mostly using her to let me pull off extra heals each turn. Oh hey, someone dropped a Master Seal, now I can get a Great Lord. Donnel gets a HUGE stat boost every level-up. Magikarp power ftw! I also find it kind of funny that when paired up, Panne powers up into super bunny mode to...run next to the people fighting and watch.
Oof, Gangrel snuck up on me and almost killed Chrom. Thank you Robin for the save. And now, ROBINXCHROM PAIR UP FINISHER! Oooh cool I got the Levin Sword. Still gotta clear everyone else out though. Not a problem.
...I think Chrom is marrying Maribelle?!?! I even kept them apart this round! Uh...well then. I suppose it's.....fate? And a quirk of gameplay that makes it very inefficient for Robin and Chrom to stick together for too long. Although, it's not as if Chrom has any actual romantic chemistry with anyone so...sure why not. Marriage proposal out of literally nowhere! I mean, I get it if he's in the mindset of "I should have a queen when I ascend to the throne to show I'm more than just a warmonger" but...I love you? You don't even know her last name! And you should because she's a noble in your kingdom!
...Actually as a political move Maribelle makes the most sense. Too bad they're never going to go that route. Yeah, they're cute together.
Time skip! Wheee!
Aaand back into war. Oooh look at cute little baby Lucina. Anyways, it seems 2 years haven't changed anyone at all! I suppose peace time does that to you.
Hi Cherche. So your identity is "holds Virion's leash". I like you.
Support Time!
Two years and absolutely nobody has changed a lick. I thought I might get like a "nice to see you again" in the barracks but NOPE.
Anyways, I guess I have to quit out to the support menu to see Chrom and Maribelle's A and S ranks? Let's see...ahaha the S rank is kind of adorable. I like the fact Maribelle is get progressively less focused on Lissa and more on Chrom through the supports and her confession at the end makes sense. What DOESN'T make sense is Chrom's sudden life long love for her. I should get Maribelle and Lissa's supports since they're not even C rank. Again, a product of inefficiency in battle.
Chrom and Sumia got B rank. See, this is what I wanted from her and Frederick, at least a facade of competency! Ah, oh well. I got Kellam and Donnel's A rank too. I wish I could marry these two. I think I'll retire Kellam now. I think I've decided who Robin's husband is going to be.
Chrom: S - Maribelle B - Robin, Frederick, Sumia C - Lissa, Sully, Vaike
Robin: B - Lon'qu C - Lissa, Frederick, Virion, Lon'qu, Panne, Cordelia
Frederick: A - Sumia C - Virion, Maribelle, Cordelia
Lon'qu: B - Tharja C - Maribelle
Donnel: A - Kellam
Miriel: B - Ricken C - Stahl, Kellam
Cordelia: C - Panne
Nowi: C - Gregor, Ricken
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 21:38:01 GMT -6
..... I'm really sad now. You miss out on all the best story scenes, and you get the second worst Lucina possible. In fact, Maribelle!Lucina is only good as a Dark Flier, and that's only with a Sorc pair up. And Chrom!Brady is just plain terrible.
Please, please tell me you'll do another playthrough HD. Or at least look up the differences on Youtube. If you don't, you aren't allowed to rate the game in any way, shape or form. Just saying.
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Post by AlmosDug on Jan 30, 2015 21:38:50 GMT -6
That is, surprisingly, not Cherche's identity. Also, kek, Maribelle. They were at the same support level so Mari got priority. IIRC, the priority goes Sumia > Maribelle > Sully > Olivia > Robin > Maiden.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jan 30, 2015 21:39:02 GMT -6
Just because he got a bad Lucina?
So what?
It's not like it'll ruin everything forever.
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Post by empireoffire on Jan 30, 2015 21:43:07 GMT -6
..... I'm really sad now. You miss out on all the best story scenes, and you get the second worst Lucina possible. In fact, Maribelle!Lucina is only good as a Dark Flier, and that's only with a Sorc pair up. And Chrom!Brady is just plain terrible. I play for fun instead of optimization. Also, he's playing Normal. He shouldn't have to care about stuff like that.
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Post by HHDeception on Jan 30, 2015 21:44:29 GMT -6
..... I'm really sad now. You miss out on all the best story scenes, and you get the second worst Lucina possible. In fact, Maribelle!Lucina is only good as a Dark Flier, and that's only with a Sorc pair up. And Chrom!Brady is just plain terrible. Please, please tell me you'll do another playthrough HD. Or at least look up the differences on Youtube. If you don't, you aren't allowed to rate the game in any way, shape or form. Just saying. What's a dark flier and who's Brady? I don't play SRPGs. I don't think I was ever going to give this game a rating.
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Post by AlmosDug on Jan 30, 2015 21:44:46 GMT -6
..... I'm really sad now. You miss out on all the best story scenes, and you get the second worst Lucina possible. In fact, Maribelle!Lucina is only good as a Dark Flier, and that's only with a Sorc pair up. And Chrom!Brady is just plain terrible. Please, please tell me you'll do another playthrough HD. Or at least look up the differences on Youtube. If you don't, you aren't allowed to rate the game in any way, shape or form. Just saying. Hm??? Lucina's generally not an exceptional unit anyway thanks to lacking Vengeance. Her general best set involves Galeforce/LB/Tomefaire/Proc or All+2 or DS+ or second proc. And Dark Flier is consistently her best class anyway, thanks to flying!magic. Because, y'know, lol!brave!1-2 range. And Dark Flier benefits more from Sage's big magic and skill boosts than Sorc's defensive boosts. Best story scenes? You mean everything Basilio and Ch. 11 with Gangrel? I mean, Lucina doesn't add anything of significant weight to that chapter or anything. Regardless, people generally aren't qualified to judge the game until they've experienced effectively everything, so you're right there.
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Post by AlmosDug on Jan 30, 2015 21:45:29 GMT -6
..... I'm really sad now. You miss out on all the best story scenes, and you get the second worst Lucina possible. In fact, Maribelle!Lucina is only good as a Dark Flier, and that's only with a Sorc pair up. And Chrom!Brady is just plain terrible. Please, please tell me you'll do another playthrough HD. Or at least look up the differences on Youtube. If you don't, you aren't allowed to rate the game in any way, shape or form. Just saying. What's a dark flier and who's Brady? I don't play SRPGs. I don't think I was ever going to give this game a rating. Dark Flier is a class you haven't seen yet. Brady's a character you haven't seen yet. That's good.
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 21:46:48 GMT -6
Just because he got a bad Lucina? So what? It's not like it'll ruin everything forever. You obviously haven't done a FeMUxChrom run with Future Past. It's not just about Lucy. The game itself is better with that pairing. Unlike with Maribelle, and honestly, most other pairings, there is actually a sense of something when Chrom marries Robin. With Mari, the game only references her during her 2nd gen paralogue, so, in other words, she only affects Gameplay. Nothing else. HD won't have experienced the full game, so he isn't allowed to rate it.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jan 30, 2015 21:49:17 GMT -6
Future Past isn't part of the full game though. It's DLC.
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Post by empireoffire on Jan 30, 2015 21:50:09 GMT -6
Just because he got a bad Lucina? So what? It's not like it'll ruin everything forever. You obviously haven't done a FeMUxChrom run with Future Past. It's not just about Lucy. The game itself is better with that pairing. Unlike with Maribelle, and honestly, most other pairings, there is actually a sense of something when Chrom marries Robin. With Mari, the game only references her during her 2nd gen paralogue, so, in other words, she only affects Gameplay. Nothing else. HD won't have experienced the full game, so he isn't allowed to rate it. So basically, people who've done MaMU playthroughs aren't allowed to have an opinion on the game?
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 21:50:40 GMT -6
..... I'm really sad now. You miss out on all the best story scenes, and you get the second worst Lucina possible. In fact, Maribelle!Lucina is only good as a Dark Flier, and that's only with a Sorc pair up. And Chrom!Brady is just plain terrible. Please, please tell me you'll do another playthrough HD. Or at least look up the differences on Youtube. If you don't, you aren't allowed to rate the game in any way, shape or form. Just saying. Hm??? Lucina's generally not an exceptional unit anyway thanks to lacking Vengeance. Her general best set involves Galeforce/LB/Tomefaire/Proc or All+2 or DS+ or second proc. And Dark Flier is consistently her best class anyway, thanks to flying!magic. Because, y'know, lol!brave!1-2 range. And Dark Flier benefits more from Sage's big magic and skill boosts than Sorc's defensive boosts. Best story scenes? You mean everything Basilio and Ch. 11 with Gangrel? I mean, Lucina doesn't add anything of significant weight to that chapter or anything. Regardless, people generally aren't qualified to judge the game until they've experienced effectively everything, so you're right there. >Story scenes >Chapter 21 >Chapter 13 >Overall plot makes more sense and has more impact >Future Past with FeMU, especially bad ending Etc.
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 21:55:33 GMT -6
You obviously haven't done a FeMUxChrom run with Future Past. It's not just about Lucy. The game itself is better with that pairing. Unlike with Maribelle, and honestly, most other pairings, there is actually a sense of something when Chrom marries Robin. With Mari, the game only references her during her 2nd gen paralogue, so, in other words, she only affects Gameplay. Nothing else. HD won't have experienced the full game, so he isn't allowed to rate it. So basically, people who've done MaMU playthroughs aren't allowed to have an opinion on the game? How dare you even suggest such a thing! .... Yes, I know I'm being irrational, and believe it or not, my first ~10 playthroughs were with MaMU. Tiki is my waifu, remember. But RobinxChrom makes the game so much better. I can't really explain it, but if you've done a FeMUxChrom playthrough, you'll agree with me. Also, FeMU has terrible support options.
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Post by empireoffire on Jan 30, 2015 22:02:26 GMT -6
I did FeMUXChrom once. Didn't particularly care for it... at all. Reminds me of a Mary Sue fic, in fact.
Granted, MaMU is also very much like it, but bad fanfics and irrational fangirls such as yourself, plus that marriage/love to the main character is a instinctive alarm puller to me, may have soiled my opinion on the matter.
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Post by GX1997 on Jan 30, 2015 22:08:42 GMT -6
MaMU has worse supports. I literally only like one MaMU pairing. There are a few ones that are okay, but only one I actually like. I'm not looking forward to filling out the support log with MaMU. Of course, there is always the potential for MaMU's parent/child supports to make some other pairings worthwhile to me.
Also, I guess there are hair colors to consider too. For instance, I will pair Sumia and Gaius from now on because of how crazy adorable Cynthia is with his hair color.
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Post by Rainbow Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 22:13:35 GMT -6
I did FeMUXChrom once. Didn't particularly care for it... at all. Reminds me of a Mary Sue fic, in fact. Granted, MaMU is also very much like it, but bad fanfics and irrational fangirls such as yourself, plus that marriage/love to the main character is a instinctive alarm puller to me, may have soiled my opinion on the matter. *Is immortal dragon* How dare you call me an irrational fangirl. Only I am allowed to call myself an irrational fangirl.
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Post by AlmosDug on Jan 30, 2015 22:21:37 GMT -6
Hm??? Lucina's generally not an exceptional unit anyway thanks to lacking Vengeance. Her general best set involves Galeforce/LB/Tomefaire/Proc or All+2 or DS+ or second proc. And Dark Flier is consistently her best class anyway, thanks to flying!magic. Because, y'know, lol!brave!1-2 range. And Dark Flier benefits more from Sage's big magic and skill boosts than Sorc's defensive boosts. Best story scenes? You mean everything Basilio and Ch. 11 with Gangrel? I mean, Lucina doesn't add anything of significant weight to that chapter or anything. Regardless, people generally aren't qualified to judge the game until they've experienced effectively everything, so you're right there. >Story scenes >Chapter 21 >Chapter 13 >Overall plot makes more sense and has more impact >Future Past with FeMU, especially bad ending Etc. I disagree with you on almost all counts. It's minor improvements to non-existent improvements. I feel you're really exaggerating the difference. FeMU had the best FP convo, but it wasn't amazing or anything. And the story really doesn't make much more sense or anything. Chrom's still just as blindly selfish with the final decision, if not more so.
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Post by AlmosDug on Jan 30, 2015 22:22:17 GMT -6
I did FeMUXChrom once. Didn't particularly care for it... at all. Reminds me of a Mary Sue fic, in fact. Granted, MaMU is also very much like it, but bad fanfics and irrational fangirls such as yourself, plus that marriage/love to the main character is a instinctive alarm puller to me, may have soiled my opinion on the matter. *Is immortal dragon* How dare you call me an irrational fangirl. Only I am allowed to call myself an irrational fangirl. *Calls you an irrational fangirl* *Prances around as a fangirl*
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Post by HHDeception on Jan 30, 2015 22:30:17 GMT -6
Chrom is a Great Lord!
Chapter 12: The Seacomers
...sorry, I have a dirty mind about that chapter title.
I don't think I'll use Olivia...she just doesn't seem that useful yet.
Oooh Dalton, you so evil. I just realized that they're also trying to give the villains identity, even if they're one-level wonders. Commendable. Looks like Chrom hasn't cooled off about war at all. And oooh Cherche rides a dragon. And uses a hammer. No wonder they're throwing so many big armour guys at me, they want me to use her.
Oh yay, someone else dropped a master seal. I'm thinking Sumia or Cordelia should upgrade, but I'll see the options.
Ugh, dang Archers. Bye Cherche. I knew I felt like this was getting too easy. Maybe I shouldn't have so many winged units? Panne is actually starting to get quite underwhelming...unfortunate. Maybe I can just have her support someone? Let's see who needs a wife...
Part of me wonders how Tharja can block a lance Calvary attack for Lon'qu.
Question: If Ferox and Ylisse are vulnerable to being raided by ships, and Plegia has ships, why did Plegia not try a naval attack during the war? Unles sI' forgetting it, I'm pretty sure this hasn't been brought up until now.
Please let the new king of Plegia be tan Bane.
Support Time!
Donnel and Robin are at C. Lissa and Maribelle are at C. All according to plan. Maribelle has very good taste in tea, but I prefer the less aromatic shark blood. Lon'qu and Tharja are at A and I am perfectly happy with this story line. My only wonder is how Lon'qu is with other girls.
Anyways, time for S-rank number 2. Sumia and Frederick! Aww so cute. It's not bad, it could just be better IMO.
Chrom: S - Maribelle B - Robin, Frederick, Sumia C - Lissa, Sully, Vaike
Robin: B - Lon'qu C - Lissa, Frederick, Virion, Lon'qu, Panne, Cordelia, Donnel
Frederick: S - Sumia C - Virion, Maribelle, Cordelia
Lissa: C - Maribelle
Lon'qu: A - Tharja C - Maribelle
Donnel: A - Kellam
Miriel: B - Ricken C - Stahl, Kellam
Cordelia: C - Panne
Nowi: C - Gregor, Ricken
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