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Post by empireoffire on Jun 28, 2018 16:51:51 GMT -6
Is there anyone here that actually uses my PA!Olivia? Maybe my WoM Brave Sword Laslow may be more useful to people for GC.
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Post by SummerCrow on Jun 28, 2018 18:03:22 GMT -6
Someone tried to phish me today. I got the text from 'my bank' at a red light, saw my account was locked, started to open it... Honestly I probably would've except for two things.
I was super pissed about some stuff that happened at work and not in the mood for any nonsense with my bank account. And two I was literally passing my bank at the turn.
So I walked in like 'uh hey so I got this message and between my car and the door I realized it's probably... not good.'
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 28, 2018 19:03:29 GMT -6
Is there anyone here that actually uses my PA!Olivia? Maybe my WoM Brave Sword Laslow may be more useful to people for GC. I usually pack my flying Ninian/Azura as my dancer for those maps for the extra mobility. On that note though, would anyone prefer a +7 Lukas to +3 Bride Cordelia? |
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 19:18:37 GMT -6
Instead of cannibalizing my new Commander Anthology decks for their manabases and helpful instants/sorceries, I decided to just order new ones once my paycheck is in. Looking at $110 so far, $30 of which is just the shock lands.
Any ideas for cheaper alternatives (I already have the cheaper fetch lands, the pain lands, the multiplayer lands, and the check lands)? My other big expenditures are a Maze of Ith, Reflecting Pool, and Strip Mine at about $11 each.
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 28, 2018 19:30:49 GMT -6
Battle lands, and maybe the cycling lands from Ahmonket. If you have fetches, go for those. Otherwise look at fast lands and reveal lands (not suggested for 4-5c though). I get away with running almost all basics in my dual-color decks, but that's because one of those colors is green, which lets me search basics.
The shocks and fetches have no substitutes because they offer both speed (etb untapped) and fixing. Lands with basic land types (Alpha duals, shocks, battle lands, cycling lands) let you search them with fetches, and this is especially important in a 4-5c deck since that lets you turn any fetch land into any color you need. If you don't have fetches, or aren't playing a lot of colors, this might not be necessary.
If you aren't full-on optimal, scry lands and tapped tri-lands are fine.
Also, might as well get Homeward Path in your utility land package too.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 19:46:26 GMT -6
My fetch lands are the ones that enter tapped. I think the untapped fetch lands are more expensive than the shock lands.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 20:08:22 GMT -6
I reduced the cost some by using some filter lands and more affordable lands of other types. Gonna find some other combinations like scry lands and fast lands and see if they make it any better.
EDIT: They did not. Any lands that would make it more affordable to get rid of are just faster than the scry lands and cheaper than the fast lands.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 20:30:58 GMT -6
Optimized it with the lands I already have. Got rid of Homeward Path or whatever it's called for cost reasons, though I may replace Ghost Quarter with it since Strip Mine is somehow less expensive than Wasteland (for some reason?).
EDIT: Got rid of Field of Ruin instead of Ghost Quarter. The 2 mana investment for that extra land isn't really worth it when I have Rampant Growth, Cultivate, and Kodama's Reach in a deck with lots of card draw.
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 28, 2018 21:07:56 GMT -6
Strip mine is limited to 1 in Vintage and banned in Legacy. Wasteland is allowed as 4-of in both, hence the higher demand.
As for budget land destruction lands IMO, Ghost Quarter > Tectonic Edge > Field of Ruin. Encroaching Wastes is a possibility but really isn't worth it. The real reason you want one of these is to hit a utility land like Glacial Chasm, or a huge mana land like Itlimoc/Gaea's Cradle or Cabal Coffers. It might not even come up in a game, so you probably don't need more than one or two, especially when you need 3+ colors.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 21:11:01 GMT -6
I dropped guildgates and some less useful dual lands and picked up Krosan Verge (completely forgot about this card). It's surprisingly cheap for what's essentially one of the Onslaught fetch lands.
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 28, 2018 21:30:08 GMT -6
Oh duh right, Krosan Verge is amazing. Sucks that they never added to that cycle. Some similar (very cheap) lands are teramorphic expanse, evolving wilds, and blighted woodland.
I would prefer to run basics over the guildgates or the ordinary taplands. There's the life lands and manlands if you're desperate for duals, and the bounce lands which are awkward but okay.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 21:50:01 GMT -6
The lands I've got in the cart ready to purchase are:
Multiplayer Lands
Check Lands
Filter Lands
Bounce Lands
Krosan Verge
The U/G double filter land
Pain Lands
Tap Tri-Land
Bant Panorama
Ghost Quarter
Strip Mine
That one really weird White land that can sac for a UG
Mana Confluence
Command Tower
Reflecting Pool
Maze of Ith
Homeward Path
Exotic Orchard
City of Brass
Rupture Spire
I also already own an Evolving Wilds, Zhafirin Void, Alchemist's Refuge (yay flash), and the pieces of the check and multiplayer Lands that I didn't order copies of.
In this order I've also got more stuff like guild signets, fellwar stone, vigilance enchantments, Cultivate/Rampant Growth, Panharmonicon, and any other instant/sorcery I was considering running from Anthology 2 so I have those precons intact for quick games.
Once I place this order, the only thing left will be to actually get Arcades, sort out my Mana curve, and sort cards in and out until I get an even 100 (cards I'm considering go to about 110).
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 28, 2018 21:51:11 GMT -6
Oh duh, and I already have a Reliquary Tower and ordered another Sol Ring (good thing it's in every precon or that card would be expensive as s***)
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 28, 2018 23:45:12 GMT -6
You've officially gone more hardcore on mana base than I ever have, congrats.
But then again the only decks I play that have 3+ colors are from precons, which I would rather crumble into other decks than keep whole. I should probably consider upgrading Markov's mana base though, hm...
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 28, 2018 23:55:42 GMT -6
OH, right. Lairs are okay for a cheap shard mana base. For Bant it's Treva's Ruins.
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Post by empireoffire on Jun 29, 2018 1:03:58 GMT -6
Now this is a VG theme I can get behind.
Bracket 1:
Marth vs Hardin
Sogurd vs Arvis
Bracket 2:
L!Ephraim vs Lyon
L!Ike vs Zelgius
I think I'll start on Marth.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Jun 29, 2018 8:41:11 GMT -6
Turns out Rakdos isn't getting stuff until Ravnica Allegiance, so I guess that's a wait until 2019.
I just want an actually good Rakdos Commander with the new frame to contrast Bant Defender.
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 29, 2018 10:11:37 GMT -6
Now this is a VG theme I can get behind. Bracket 1: Marth vs Hardin Sogurd vs Arvis Bracket 2: L!Ephraim vs Lyon L!Ike vs Zelgius I think I'll start on Marth. Actual plot relevance in FEH? What is this witchcraft? Ike is probably winning this...I'll join Zelgius first. |
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Post by HHDeception on Jun 29, 2018 10:20:20 GMT -6
Turns out Rakdos isn't getting stuff until Ravnica Allegiance, so I guess that's a wait until 2019. I just want an actually good Rakdos Commander with the new frame to contrast Bant Defender. Could be fun to contrast Arcades with Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury? Sure, Ur-Dragon is "the" dragon tribal commander, but most of the best aggro dragons are in RB anyways. Her anthem effect applies to all creatures so you could aim to swing with a few dragons and a ton of goblins, for example. |
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Post by empireoffire on Jun 29, 2018 10:42:49 GMT -6
Now this is a VG theme I can get behind. Bracket 1: Marth vs Hardin Sogurd vs Arvis Bracket 2: L!Ephraim vs Lyon L!Ike vs Zelgius I think I'll start on Marth. Actual plot relevance in FEH? What is this witchcraft? Ike is probably winning this...I'll join Zelgius first. That's what people said last time. If I had to guess who Team Feathers is, I say... Lyon. |
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