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Post by SpringForest on Mar 14, 2017 19:00:46 GMT -6
The rules state that when an MD object is destroyed, the attack does not leak through. So if you have 50 MD armor and it's hit with a 500 MD attack, the armor will be destroyed entirely, but absorb the entire blow first. So the person wearing it would be safe. Just don't get hit again after that.
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Post by Malefio on Mar 14, 2017 19:00:51 GMT -6
(I still want the answer anyway, cause it's not specified in the spell description)
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Post by Malefio on Mar 14, 2017 19:03:42 GMT -6
Also, Crow, the NPC repelling a monster but not killing it can be a very good way for the GM to show us what we'll have to deal with later.
We know all the marks are needed to kill it. So even if the NPC gets rid of the Terrasque, it won't be permanently.
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 19:04:15 GMT -6
...The hole I dug myself...
If I got Celica killed, that's one thing. But getting someone else's character killed...
I already said I'm fine with Celica being the only distraction. Preferably with Mech, though. If everyone else wants to go in.
Talking with Neo I kind of realized I was less upset that I screwed up to the point a terrasque is on the loose and more upset that Celica and Mech didn't get to... y'know. Have the same sort of moment Shira and Xar had. The irony being that looking back there were several opportunities for it that were... just... thrown at me that I completely missed because I was so hung up on how that first chance got blown apart. And then Neo went and (indirectly) pointed out it could mean everyone else missing out on meeting their... counterpart mark person. And now that it could get someone else killed. So that's... great...
Y'know what, just... forget my vote. I abstain.
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 19:05:47 GMT -6
Mystic, I have a question. If Shira gets in Dragon form with Slimex on her back using his bubble shield (which would protect us both) and the Terrasque does 70 MD, bypassing the 60 MD HP of the shield, do we take 10 MD damage or would the shield soak the additional damage? If something has 1 MD of armor and gets hit with infinity MD of damage, the armor soaks all the damage. Shira is not fighting the Terrasque. Period. End of discussion. You... volunteered her earlier, though? It's fine if you don't want to, but what's with the sudden change? |
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 19:07:35 GMT -6
We know all the marks are needed to kill it. ...We do? Mystic, did you... finish writing out the notes yet? That's a thing you can work on. Maybe it'll have some hint. Or at least justify all of this. ...No, it won't. The 2nd part, anyway. |
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Post by Malefio on Mar 14, 2017 19:08:18 GMT -6
I thought you guys said you were told all 10 mark bearers are required to defeat the Terrasque...
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Post by SpringForest on Mar 14, 2017 19:08:54 GMT -6
I'll write out all the notes and place them in the player journals. You can look at them when I finish. I'll tell you.
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Post by Neo on Mar 14, 2017 19:11:39 GMT -6
Because I thought about it and I realized it was stupid. I have no way of knowing how much damage the Terrasque can do, or what kind of attacks it has, unless Mystic straight up tells us. We have no way of knowing if there will be anything worthwhile down the elevator shaft. For all we know, it could be an empty room and that's it. The only thing we know for certain is that the Terrasque is much stronger than Mech, who is stronger than Shira, according to Mystic. I am not risking Shira's life for something that could turn out to be utterly pointless.
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 19:12:00 GMT -6
I thought you guys said you were told all 10 mark bearers are required to defeat the Terrasque... I think Neo suggested it, maybe? But I think that was a plot-suggestion for Mystic or something. We haven't seen anything confirming that, no. Of the 4 notes we've read (out of the 6 we collected), all we know is that Mech and Terry were designed to be the ultimate lifeform, but blah blah blah didn't work science mumbo-jumbo federation of magic nerdspeak Terry is Mech's tougher big brother. |
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Post by SpringForest on Mar 14, 2017 19:12:05 GMT -6
I thought you guys said you were told all 10 mark bearers are required to defeat the Terrasque... This is mostly my fault. I don't know if I said all marks were specifically required, but I did say that the Terrasque would be a good way to bring the marks together. Using something disadvantageous as an advantage. That general idea. Although it would cost a few lives, it would be two birds with one stone. But that's just an idea. I give out a lot of those. Since this is a tabeltop game, there aren't any true limits to what you can choose to do. So sometimes I toss out of the box ideas at people. |
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Post by Neo on Mar 14, 2017 19:14:11 GMT -6
Mystic said during last session that it would take either all the armies of the world, or all the Mark Bearers to defeat the Terrasque. I absolutely remember him saying that.
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Post by Neo on Mar 14, 2017 19:16:16 GMT -6
"A few lives". Mystic. Just from a logistics standpoint alone, I can tell you that would cost millions of lives.
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Post by Neo on Mar 14, 2017 19:24:47 GMT -6
Also, Crow, the NPC repelling a monster but not killing it can be a very good way for the GM to show us what we'll have to deal with later. We know all the marks are needed to kill it. So even if the NPC gets rid of the Terrasque, it won't be permanently. This needs to be said. Again. This is by far, bar none, no contest, the best solution. For everyone. Not just Shira. Spoiler shows up after the party panics a bit more. Wounds the Terrasque enough that it goes to hibernate in the ocean. Shira gets her character stuff. The party gets to continue Dracomundi. Celica gets some bonding time with Mech on the ship. And we can still fight the Terrasque later, when we're ready. And literally the only argument I've heard against this is because "it would seem lame." Or "We don't want the Spoiler Fairy to save us". Spoiler! She's not a fairy, but the God-Dragon of War, and one of the most powerful people in The entire Megaverse! She could Realistically take on a Terrasque without much difficulty. And Mystic and I were already planning to have her show up at some point. So what the hell is the problem? ... I'm getting too upset. I'm just going to go. You guys think of something and do it. But I'm not risking Shira's life, and I'm not going to pretend to be happy about it. |
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 19:42:16 GMT -6
And literally the only argument I've heard against this is because "it would seem lame." Or "We don't want the Spoiler Fairy to save us". Well... Yeah, because that's literally the only argument I put forward. It fixes things up neatly with no risk or even really involvement on our part.Yes, we... didn't think it was literally a fairy. You already mentioned it was a fire dragon. And seeing as you made it, of course it's one of the strongest creatures.Spoiler! That won't happen. Even if Celica were in the mood, what would they bond over? "Oh, hey, you're the one that got my home and all my machines and experiments and my entire life's work destroyed." "But I was just trying to help..." "WELL YA REALLY HELPED TERRY OVER THERE. LOOT AT HIM. HE'S JUST A-HAVIN' THE TIME OF HIS LIFE SMASHING THAT INNOCENT VILLAGE." That's 1 vote A. 1 B. Two C. Two abstain. Let's hear from GX, I guess. Actually kind of odd she hasn't weighed in at all yet. |
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Post by SpringForest on Mar 14, 2017 19:43:13 GMT -6
I got those notes made. I dunno how comprehensible or accurate they are to what I was trying to do, but if you have questions, ask them. There might be a few things I forgot to put in them that are important.
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Post by Neo on Mar 14, 2017 20:08:03 GMT -6
... I did not make Zandragal. She is part of canon Rifts. Don't believe me, look up the Dragons and Gods book.
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 20:10:56 GMT -6
Oh. You just mentioned making the sheet, so I assumed you made the character. I don't have any reason not to believe you or anything...
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Post by Neo on Mar 14, 2017 20:27:58 GMT -6
Fine. If everyone wants to ditch Dracomundi and literally not come back until the end of the campaign, then I guess that's what we're doing. Why am I so upset about this? Because I feel like my character is being punished for this whole scenario, when none of this is her fault. Shira has a strong attachment to Dracomundi, because it's one of the only worlds where she can at least mostly be herself. Where she's not hunted, and doesn't have to hide. In fact, I think it IS the only world. No one else has a strong attachment to Dracomundi like that. As a player, I've been enjoying and looking forward to Dracomundi. I've also been really looking forward to Shira meeting Zandragal, because it's something I've been wanting for a while now, and trying to plan. Dracomundi is literally the perfect world for her to make a natural appearance, that doesn't feel contrived or forced. So now, either Mystic decides to force her to appear somewhere else, or I have to wait until the very end of the campaign for that RP, which means I have to throw all those plans out the window.
And the reason for this? The reason why others aren't okay with this, the reason why I'm going to be forced to redo a lot of plans that I was really looking forward to, the reason why I'm going to be stuck RPing a depressed Shira who thinks she won't get to go back to Dracomundi for a long time, is because it's not hard enough?! The only reason is because thar plan is too easy, too "convenient"?
That. Really. Pisses. Me. Off.
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Post by SummerCrow on Mar 14, 2017 20:39:13 GMT -6
Well, that sounds familiar. Only having a few worlds where your character isn't stuck with a bunch of constraints. Having your expectations subverted and missing out on things you'd been excited for because of stupid reasons like people wanting to show off.
Fine. Just... do A.
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