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Post by SummerCrow on Oct 21, 2015 16:11:41 GMT -6
Your contribution to LMGG too. Just seems like a trend to me is all. EoF: Snark, underdog or underestimated, healthy romantic relationships, having multiple identities/"masks" Honestly, I forgot about them. I mean... I clearly have a set of tropes I stick to, but "mother/child" and "wife/husband" relationships... are not a focus. Sure, they're present in three of the many, many characters I have, but. That's a bit of a minority. A CDM character is: Generally female (because of a long, boring reason that's basically become a self-inside-joke) Emotionally unstable, usually a berseker or sadist. ...And that's about it.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Oct 21, 2015 16:12:44 GMT -6
What's the long, boring reason?
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Post by empireoffire on Oct 21, 2015 16:13:22 GMT -6
Your contribution to LMGG too. Just seems like a trend to me is all. EoF: Snark, underdog or underestimated, healthy romantic relationships, having multiple identities/"masks" Glinda tho.
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Post by SummerCrow on Oct 21, 2015 16:17:59 GMT -6
What's the long, boring reason? Because I had a small group of friends and we'd play board games a lot, and there's usually be just enough male characters for all but one of us, and I was the only one who didn't seem to mind playing the female picture on a piece of cardboard. So I ran with it and started going out of my way for it. Except in like Battlestar Galactica where I split my time pretty evenly between Chief and Admiral McCrazyPants (who would totally be a CDM character). And always, always the creepy little girl in Betrayal at House on the Hill. Anyway, I carried that on to my first few DnD characters. Well, maybe not so long, but dull. Irving tho.
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Post by Neo on Oct 21, 2015 16:31:17 GMT -6
*Glares angrily at HD*
Way to judge an entire character off a few sentences. Good going. I'm being sarcastic. It's a really dumb thing to do.
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Post by HHDeception on Oct 21, 2015 16:38:26 GMT -6
Your contribution to LMGG too. Just seems like a trend to me is all. EoF: Snark, underdog or underestimated, healthy romantic relationships, having multiple identities/"masks" Glinda tho. Well she had a healthy romantic relationship. Ish. Well you judge everything all the time. I just like looking for themes.
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Post by Neo on Oct 21, 2015 16:58:57 GMT -6
I only judge things when I actually have something substantial to judge. All you do is look at character sheets and immediately judge them to be tropes, or to be similar to other characters, which, frankly, is utterly foolish. And this isn't the first time you've done it, HD.
A character sheet is simply a rough draft of the author's vision of his or her character. It is not the final product, and it is not a true representation of the character.
Most authors use parts of their own personality or background to create the bases of their characters, and from there, they build on that base and the character changes and evolves. That's what makes a story a story. My character sheets are simply that; those bases. So don't judge a character until you actually know the character.
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Post by SummerCrow on Oct 21, 2015 17:03:07 GMT -6
I mean... he's not wrong.
Trail and Kanis, Orion (and Eden), Nobi (and Rhea), Cade and Rena, Hector and Azura
...You can't tell me you don't notice a trend here.
Male badass with a tortured and/or mysterious past, possibly one still pursuing him, usually with themes like "dragon" and "black." Loving, supporting female. Usually with themes like "bird" and "white."
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Post by HHDeception on Oct 21, 2015 17:10:22 GMT -6
I only judge things when I actually have something substantial to judge. All you do is look at character sheets and immediately judge them to be tropes, or to be similar to other characters, which, frankly, is utterly foolish. And this isn't the first time you've done it, HD. A character sheet is simply a rough draft of the author's vision of his or her character. It is not the final product, and it is not a true representation of the character. Most authors use parts of their own personality or background to create the bases of their characters, and from there, they build on that base and the character changes and evolves. That's what makes a story a story. My character sheets are simply that; those bases. So don't judge a character until you actually know the character. Well yeah, and I can't help the fact that my characters all pretty much talk the same way. Same kind of thing. Don't see what the big deal is to have similarities, and if similarities weren't a good thing then Shakespeare and Power Rangers would have never caught on. It's recognizing the pattern that's interesting to me. And Crow's talking about exactly what I mean. Anyways back on topic, I still probably wont have any time to actually write in these things for a good long while, but character making is fun so I'll probably do that. But question: are there "dark champions" or at least those who have champion cards but aren't very nice people. Never mind. Reread that. Neat.
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Post by Neo on Oct 21, 2015 17:18:11 GMT -6
I mean... he's not wrong. Trail and Kanis, Orion (and Eden), Nobi (and Rhea), Cade and Rena, Hector and Azura ...You can't tell me you don't notice a trend here. Male badass with a tortured and/or mysterious past, possibly one still pursuing him, usually with themes like "dragon" and "black." Loving, supporting female. Usually with themes like "bird" and "white." ... Nobi and Rhea? Don't you mean Vinnie and Elia? And yes, he is wrong. Because each of those characters all have unique and different aspects to them. They all have a similar base. You do not publish a rough draft. Characters evolve. Attempting to judge a character by its base is inherently wrong, because the base is not the true character. Yes, I like a certain theme. That's because, like I said before, I like my most personal characters to have aspects of my real life self. That does NOT mean ALL my characters share the same base or theme, and that does not mean a character is the same as their base. No matter how anyone tries to spin it, HD judged a character of mine simply off of a brief base. And THAT IS wrong. And quite frankly, it's also an insult to my writing. Hence why I'm a little peeved.
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Post by HHDeception on Oct 21, 2015 17:32:03 GMT -6
Sorry for insulting you.
I will never comment on anything you write ever again.
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Post by SummerCrow on Oct 21, 2015 17:33:48 GMT -6
I mean... he's not wrong. Trail and Kanis, Orion (and Eden), Nobi (and Rhea), Cade and Rena, Hector and Azura ...You can't tell me you don't notice a trend here. Male badass with a tortured and/or mysterious past, possibly one still pursuing him, usually with themes like "dragon" and "black." Loving, supporting female. Usually with themes like "bird" and "white." ... Nobi and Rhea? Don't you mean Vinnie and Elia? And yes, he is wrong. Because each of those characters all have unique and different aspects to them. They all have a similar base. You do not publish a rough draft. Characters evolve. Attempting to judge a character by its base is inherently wrong, because the base is not the true character. Yes, I like a certain theme. That's because, like I said before, I like my most personal characters to have aspects of my real life self. That does NOT mean ALL my characters share the same base or theme, and that does not mean a character is the same as their base. Yes, Elia, not Rhea (who's Rhea...?). But I still like Nobi better. Because it's my best friend's dog's nickname. And I don't think he was trying to say it's the same character. I'm pretty sure he was trying to say it's the same base. Enough that you can tell it's a Neo character. Which... is true. There's nothing wrong with having a base you really like, so long as you're always tweaking it, trying to do things just a bit differently, a bit better. I mean, that's probably the best way to write, right? Write what you know? Just occasionally stray off the beaten path and write something radically different. Which reminds me, you can add something else to the CDM character checklist: Desperate Power/Prevail/Yuushya LV9/Curse of Geass/Death Trance/Rage - that tendency to get stronger when they're badly wounded, to the point of displaying radical jumps in power.
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Post by Neo on Oct 21, 2015 18:00:07 GMT -6
Sorry HD. I overreacted a bit. But I've only used that base a few times; Trail, Ethan, Vincent, Varren, Orion, and now Hector, to name most. Out of the thousands of characters I've created in the years I've been writing.
And I only use that base for main characters. So you automatically deeming a character a trope because of what base I use is really unfair to me.
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Post by empireoffire on Oct 21, 2015 18:04:37 GMT -6
Why do you take it so personal about tropes? There's so many of them that it's impossible to avoid using them.
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Post by HHDeception on Oct 21, 2015 18:14:44 GMT -6
I think I just trigger neo.
Again on topic, do they use duel disks here and can they be hacked to short circuit and incinerate people's cards/decks?
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Post by SummerCrow on Oct 21, 2015 18:23:06 GMT -6
I think I just trigger neo. Again on topic, do they use duel disks here and can they be hacked to short circuit and incinerate people's cards/decks? Bad bunny. Declare that this character is female. Also bad bunny. Quantum gender best gender.
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Post by Neo on Oct 21, 2015 18:29:32 GMT -6
I think I just trigger neo. Again on topic, do they use duel disks here and can they be hacked to short circuit and incinerate people's cards/decks? It's my fault HD. Not yours. And yes, duelists use Duel Disks. I honestly don't know if it's possible to hack them however. I don't remember if anything like that ever happened in the anime, and I would need a precedent before I can definitively say yes. It's kinda a risky topic.
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Post by HHDeception on Oct 21, 2015 18:34:05 GMT -6
It's along the lines of the stuff I PM'ed you about. Again, I'm not going to be doing it to other RPers (and it's easy enough to say that gods protect the cards of the chosen).
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Post by SummerCrow on Oct 21, 2015 18:39:28 GMT -6
I think I just trigger neo. Again on topic, do they use duel disks here and can they be hacked to short circuit and incinerate people's cards/decks? It's my fault HD. Not yours. And yes, duelists use Duel Disks. I honestly don't know if it's possible to hack them however. I don't remember if anything like that ever happened in the anime, and I would need a precedent before I can definitively say yes. It's kinda a risky topic. Oh! OH! I got this! If I remember right, the duel disk isn't one solid unit, is it? I think it connects to a pair of hologram projectors or something? Either way, the disks of people in duels can definitely communicate with each other. Seeing as the holograms aren't real or anything like that, they would almost definitely be able to communicate with each other to determine LP and whatnot, seeing as we never see someone manually lowering their LP. The other option's video analysis of which monsters are on the other field, as well as knowing which cards have been played to buff/deb- it's a nightmare. They almost definitely have some level of wireless communication. Huh, I guess they must also have some solid vocal analysis to hear declared attacks and whatnot... Anyway, if it's wireless, it can be hacked. However, this would probably be limited to changing LP or monster ATK/DEF, effects, etc. At most, destroying cards on the field and sending them to the graveyard... probably. Actually, there's precedence of Kaiba hacking one of the older systems to lower monster ATK, so. If one system's vulnerable, they all probably have some way in. As for burning cards and whatnot. No, almost definitely not. A system meant to be worn on a person's arm would have a failsafe circuit to prevent overheating, assuming any sane person was on the design committee. I'm pretty sure the temperature needed to melt cardboard would cause at least 1st degree burns.
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Post by Neo on Oct 21, 2015 18:43:45 GMT -6
It's along the lines of the stuff I PM'ed you about. Again, I'm not going to be doing it to other RPers (and it's easy enough to say that gods protect the cards of the chosen). Between this and what Crow just posted, I don't see a problem with it.
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