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Post by empireoffire on Aug 21, 2015 15:00:05 GMT -6
The crows have a young female, a king, and an elderly male. Not great for comparing. Compare Vika's model with the generic enemy model? |
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 21, 2015 15:29:29 GMT -6
Ooh, looks like we have a scientist on our hands.
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Post by The Big Cheese on Aug 21, 2015 20:30:45 GMT -6
Ooh, looks like we have a scientist on our hands. Yeah, HHD. |
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Post by Neo on Aug 22, 2015 22:39:37 GMT -6
Hey Crow, would it be okay to have a character reclass through the story? Once my Rena regains her memories, I want her to have a unique class and be able to use Light Magic in human form.
If you'd like to know the in-story justification, and the details of her unique class, I can PM you.
I may also be tweaking her age a bit.
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 22, 2015 22:59:11 GMT -6
Keep the justification, send the class details. But remember herons are... Wait, can't laguz not able to use magic?
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Post by HHDeception on Aug 22, 2015 23:05:40 GMT -6
But she's special!
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Post by Neo on Aug 22, 2015 23:11:31 GMT -6
Keep the justification, send the class details. But remember herons are... Wait, can't laguz not able to use magic? I think in the canon it's stated that Herons are more attune to magic than other Laguz, due to the Galdr, which is similar to natural magic. I don't remember where I heard that though. I'll see if I can find it tomorrow, and if I can't, I'll have it be swords instead, since that also works. Always have a backup plan, I like to say. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 23:16:28 GMT -6
Ain't that the truth?
*Nod at the back-up plan*
But, "Always be prepared" is what I say. Har har har!
Um...har?
Sorry about the comment in AoD, Neo. I didn't really think about what I was saying. It was insensitive.
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 22, 2015 23:30:00 GMT -6
If a punch broke Reyson's hand, what would swinging a sword do?
And I'm pretty sure someone says laguz can't use magic. Mordecai, I think. Maybe Muarim. One of the tigers. Then the game turns around and retcons itself in chapter F-4.
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Post by HHDeception on Aug 22, 2015 23:33:31 GMT -6
Also, isn't our universe different than canon? We can make stuff up.
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Post by Neo on Aug 22, 2015 23:33:19 GMT -6
Ain't that the truth? *Nod at the back-up plan* But, "Always be prepared" is what I say. Har har har! Um...har? Sorry about the comment in AoD, Neo. I didn't really think about what I was saying. It was insensitive. It's fine, Fen-Fen. Don't worry about it. |
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Post by empireoffire on Aug 22, 2015 23:36:09 GMT -6
Well there's always those spectre/reaper/daemon cards in RD.
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Post by The Big Cheese on Aug 22, 2015 23:37:03 GMT -6
Keep the justification, send the class details. But remember herons are... Wait, can't laguz not able to use magic? I think in the canon it's stated that Herons are more attune to magic than other Laguz, due to the Galdr, which is similar to natural magic. I don't remember where I heard that though. I'll see if I can find it tomorrow, and if I can't, I'll have it be swords instead, since that also works. Always have a backup plan, I like to say. I think the term they specifically used was "Saed magic." |
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Post by Neo on Aug 22, 2015 23:37:33 GMT -6
If a punch broke Reyson's hand, what would swinging a sword do? And I'm pretty sure someone says laguz can't use magic. Mordecai, I think. Maybe Muarim. One of the tigers. Then the game turns around and retcons itself in chapter F-4. We also have 6ft+ Herons who use massive scythes and have been trained to fight since childhood. Trained being the key word. So any Heron could be trained how to use weapons. They could in canon too. They just didn't learn how to fight because of principle. Also, like HD said, this isn't canon. |
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Post by GX1997 on Aug 23, 2015 9:00:44 GMT -6
If a punch broke Reyson's hand, what would swinging a sword do? And I'm pretty sure someone says laguz can't use magic. Mordecai, I think. Maybe Muarim. One of the tigers. Then the game turns around and retcons itself in chapter F-4. We also have 6ft+ Herons who use massive scythes and have been trained to fight since childhood. Trained being the key word. So any Heron could be trained how to use weapons. They could in canon too. They just didn't learn how to fight because of principle. Also, like HD said, this isn't canon. But we made that a special thing for black winged herons. |
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Post by Neo on Aug 23, 2015 10:44:07 GMT -6
We also have 6ft+ Herons who use massive scythes and have been trained to fight since childhood. Trained being the key word. So any Heron could be trained how to use weapons. They could in canon too. They just didn't learn how to fight because of principle. Also, like HD said, this isn't canon. But we made that a special thing for black winged herons.  |
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Aug 23, 2015 10:47:42 GMT -6
Plus, the thing about Humans vs Laguz is that Humans, while weaker without tools, excel at using tools and magic while the Laguz both don't use them culturally and it takes much longer for them to learn due to either lower capability or worse ethic.
It's sort of like how in DnD an 80-year old Human Wizard can probably cast at least 6th level spells, while an 80-year old Elf might Wizard only be able to use, at most, 1st level spells.
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Post by Neo on Aug 23, 2015 10:55:15 GMT -6
Plus, the thing about Humans vs Laguz is that Humans, while weaker without tools, excel at using tools and magic while the Laguz both don't use them culturally and it takes much longer for them to learn due to either lower capability or worse ethic. It's sort of like how in DnD an 80-year old Human Wizard can probably cast at least 6th level spells, while an 80-year old Elf might Wizard only be able to use, at most, 1st level spells. ..... Really? Really, Golurk? Really? ..... I'm not going to even bother. I just got up and I'm too tired to deal with this. |
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Aug 23, 2015 11:01:11 GMT -6
Hey, it's a perfectly valid explanation that fits the lore on why Laguz don't really use weapons besides "Lol weapons are dumb" and supports the RP lore that humans are designed to be versatile, so they have a much better aptitude for weapons and magic.
So while it might take a human 20 years to master a style of swordsmanship, it could take a Laguz 100s of years. Otherwise, Laguz would completely outclass humans in pretty much every way. The inventiveness of humans allows them to adjust to and learn how to use external tools to their advantage. They'd be better at mastering and creating new martial and magical techniques.
Here's the line about humans in the creation story:
"The youngest son, ambitious Selsen, wished to create a creature to surpass all his siblings' creations. He created the beorc, creative and adaptive. The newborn beorc named their country in his honor. His task complete, Terik became a star and traveled to the sky to watch over his creation."
Creative and adaptive, so humans would be able to create and learn new techniques with external forces than a Laguz would. So, if humans are the baseline, a Laguz would learn things at a slower rate in comparison.
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Post by Neo on Aug 23, 2015 11:14:38 GMT -6
You're fishing for arguments. Despite what's happened before, you're still bloody fishing for arguments. You're choosing sides and adding your two cents when there's no need to. That's what's annoying the hell out of me.
Go up and read my previous posts about "justification". Then remember who you're talking to. Might it be possible that I already know and have planned for all that? Then read CDM's post about not needing justification.
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