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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 0:11:55 GMT -6
You may be the TC, but I was the one who suggested the quiz. In addition, GX, who got the same result 100% of the time, has any character she might make now be displaced. Also, that whole "You're not a writer; explaining a character idea ruins the idea" bulls*** is, well, bulls***. Explaining ideas to others, especially cosmetic ones, is a huge part of creating quality writing. Ensuring that a character serves its purpose by the reactions of others isn't "making a character no longer yours". That's like saying that showing my face in public grants people adspace on it. I asked for you to partially explain your idea so that I could help create a situation where the two characters don't step on each other's toes or provide suggestions to further improve or enhance a character. I never said "give me a 30-page paper on your character". Why? Why is any character that she makes now displaced? Are you honestly confusing the character with the character's abilities? Seriously? You said it yourself; Makarov and Mavis could both use Light Magic, and they also have similar abilities. Are they the same character? By your logic, FT shouldn't have included both of them in the same manga! You wanna know the crazy thing? You're making a mountain out of a molehill, when I guarantee you, I GUARANTEE you, GX doesn't mind me using the same class. So what is your deal? What is your real issue with it? Anyway. I have no need to further justify or explain myself. If GX wants to compare characters(Which I'm willing to bet she doesn't), she can PM me herself tomorrow. If you don't like it Golurk, well, then you don't have to join the RP. Goodnight.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on May 30, 2015 0:20:37 GMT -6
I'm talking about a set of skills, not just a particular kind of magic.
Right now, you're being an incredibly indignant jerk about it. I never said that Mavis and Makarov were interchangeable because they could use the same magic. They function very differently, and specialize in completely different kinds of magic as well. The classes aren't a kind of ability that two characters might use in addition to something else. The classes are sets. It wouldn't be fair to kick someone out of an archetype without their input, especially if they would have had a more rightful claim. To quote the immortal John Stewart: "We don't need two stretchy guys."
You're putting s*** in my mouth to make yourself feel better at this point. I asked you what unique ideas you had for this character. Why would it be needed to shunt someone else out of their archetype. It's a matter of principle.
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 0:37:42 GMT -6
I'm talking about a set of skills, not just a particular kind of magic. Right now, you're being an incredibly indignant jerk about it. I never said that Mavis and Makarov were interchangeable because they could use the same magic. They function very differently, and specialize in completely different kinds of magic as well. The classes aren't a kind of ability that two characters might use in addition to something else. The classes are sets. It wouldn't be fair to kick someone out of an archetype without their input, especially if they would have had a more rightful claim. To quote the immortal John Stewart: "We don't need two stretchy guys." You're putting s*** in my mouth to make yourself feel better at this point. I asked you what unique ideas you had for this character. Why would it be needed to shunt someone else out of their archetype. It's a matter of principle. Actually... This might require some justification on my part. I'm really not trying to sound like a jerk. The bolded part, Golurk? Just by saying that, you're doing the same exact thing. See the irony? Also, please remember to whom you're talking to. I don't "need" to make myself feel better. I'm not that petty. On the contrary, actually, I'm upset because I'm in an argument with one of my friends, and I think it could have been avoided. Golurk, we aren't using the exact abilities as described in the class description. This is Fairy Tail, and that's not possible to do with all classes. See Star Glider. Remember my post about why I didn't want to use it? Because the class is mostly based on electromagnetism, and that translates to Gravity, Flying, or Thunder magic. GX and I can both use the same class and have very different fighting styles, and yes, even abilities. I plan on having my character use a kind of light based Dimensional magic, and be a Devil Slayer. Literally the only thing our characters will have in common is that they both use Light Magic. That's it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 6:33:01 GMT -6
I'm with Neo to be clear. Compare the three different dragonslayers, the three Celestial wizards alive at this point, the three different God-Slsyer, the different Ice Make wizards, etc. They can use the same class. In fact, Why are you arguing fro GX? If she has an objection I'd be delighed to read it. But if she doesn't realy care and you're blowing this way out of proportion then wow GCF, just wow.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on May 30, 2015 6:47:38 GMT -6
I'm with Neo to be clear. Compare the three different dragonslayers, the three Celestial wizards alive at this point, the three different God-Slsyer, the different Ice Make wizards, etc. They can use the same class. In fact, Why are you arguing fro GX? If she has an objection I'd be delighed to read it. But if she doesn't realy care and you're blowing this way out of proportion then wow GCF, just wow. Stay out of this. I wasn't the one who started this tirade. I asked what was unique about the character then Neo resorted to personal attacks. Also, if you're using dimensional magic, then why use light magic?
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Post by GX1997 on May 30, 2015 9:28:43 GMT -6
Golurk, call down. You're out of line on this on. It doesn't matter at all. Besides, I want to retake the test because I don't want Seraphic Assailant. It's way too similar to Elia for me, and I want to do something very different.
Can we all stop bickering and apologize to each other? Please?
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 9:30:11 GMT -6
Personal attacks? I started this? Golurk, are you drunk? Or are you just completely ignoring everything I've said? Also, have you even read the class description?
As far as I'm concerned, the argument is over. GX is online, and she can speak for herself. But hurling accusations is crossing the line, Golurk.
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 9:33:16 GMT -6
Golurk, call down. You're out of line on this on. It doesn't matter at all. Besides, I want to retake the test because I don't want Seraphic Assailant. It's way too similar to Elia for me, and I want to do something very different. Can we all stop bickering and apologize to each other? Please? Ninja'd. I already tried apologizing for sounding like a jerk once, but I'll do so again. I apologize for being a defensive dragon.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 9:34:36 GMT -6
Ummm.... my only concern was having to know about FT lure but it was already answered.
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 9:55:15 GMT -6
I wanna see if you can get the Rising Phoenix class, GX. Would you like a hint?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 10:16:04 GMT -6
Well I know I am going to be the gear enchanter which from the description seems like a magical machinest.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on May 30, 2015 10:18:55 GMT -6
Personal attacks? I started this? Golurk, are you drunk? Or are you just completely ignoring everything I've said? Also, have you even read the class description? As far as I'm concerned, the argument is over. GX is online, and she can speak for herself. But hurling accusations is crossing the line, Golurk. What do you call that whole "You're not a writer" thing? Then, you set up a strawman with "According to you Mavis and Makarov shouldn't coexist" in an attempt to make me look stupid. Those were personal attacks. I'm ready to apologize but you need to see that you attacked me immediately after I asked "What makes your character unique?" All I was trying to do was get an understanding, and you responded by insulting me.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 10:20:32 GMT -6
The Gear Enchanter
You are the Gear Enchanter, a cunning warrior skilled with weapons, offensive elemental magic, and mechanics. By fusing magic and engineering together Gear Enchanters are able to construct powerful enchanted machines capable of wreaking havoc on all their opponents. Magical weapons, cannons, and vehicals are absolutely no trouble for them to build, and they give Gear Enchanters a decided advantage in every battle they fight. By constructing magical airships and tanks, they can quickly move thousands of people across vast stretches of land and also augment both their defensive and offensive capabilities. Indeed, Gear Enchanters can use their magic to swiftly move armies across continents and even drop magical bombs on any unsuspecting foes. In addition, they can create robotic, lifelike creatures that can aid them in battle against their enemies. These machine golems are incredibly powerful, and like any of their other creations, they truly make Gear Enchanters even more formidable and deadly adversaries. Gear Enchanters are especially skilled at constructing magic blades, which often have incredible and powerful properties. For example, some swords have the ability to create explosions on impact, while others can split into multiple swords mid-battle. To further augment the power of their blades, they can even imbue them with powerful elemental properties. Furthermore, Gear Enchanters may be quite skilled with using these swords and magic weapons that they construct, so even without their skill with mechanics, Gear Enchanters can use their offensive weapon skills, powerful elemental magic, and sly nature to defeat their foes. Congratulations on achieving this powerful class! This is a special class that requires a very high amount of Enchanted Engineering. You scored 92% on this variable! The Genie, impressed by your choices, has granted you the Hidden Power of Enchanted Engineering.
Well hopefully nobody here has a problem with it..........
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 10:29:40 GMT -6
Personal attacks? I started this? Golurk, are you drunk? Or are you just completely ignoring everything I've said? Also, have you even read the class description? As far as I'm concerned, the argument is over. GX is online, and she can speak for herself. But hurling accusations is crossing the line, Golurk. What do you call that whole "You're not a writer" thing? Then, you set up a strawman with "According to you Mavis and Makarov shouldn't coexist" in an attempt to make me look stupid. Those were personal attacks. I'm ready to apologize but you need to see that you attacked me immediately after I asked "What makes your character unique?" All I was trying to do was get an understanding, and you responded by insulting me. I wasn't setting up a 'strawman' in order to make you look stupid. I was trying to make a point. Big difference. And while I honestly didn't mean any offense with the whole writer thing, in hindsight, I can see how that could be construed as an insult. So I apologize.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on May 30, 2015 10:37:23 GMT -6
Okay, I apologize as well.
You used a strawman to make your point, blatantly misrepresenting the opposition by pushing points to extremes. Then, claiming that inaccurate extreme as the other person's point in order to attack it is definitely an applied strawman.
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 11:00:43 GMT -6
I apologize if that's the way it sounded, but again, I wasn't intentionally using a strawman ploy. That didn't even cross my mind at the time. I was just trying to make a point.
Hmm... Looks fine X, but I'm not sure what kind of magic that class translates into. May have to make a new Ancient Magic for that one.
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 11:04:46 GMT -6
The Seraphic Assailant 27% Strength, 12% Bloodlust, 25% Intelligence, 62% Spirit, 38% Vitality and 17% Agility!
The Seraphic Assailant is the only class that has completely mastered the art of offensive light magic. Using this magic, Seraphic Assailants can create lances and swords out of pure light energy. These powerful weapons are devastatingly swift and can pierce through even the toughest armor. In addition, some Seraphic Assailants will occasionally master forms of powerful offensive elemental magic, though they are certainly not as adept with this type magic. Defensively, the Seraphic Assailant is much less adept at using light magic; however, they are still able to create weak shields and use basic healing magic. In addition, they can use their light to make some powerful and stunning illusions. Their greatest defensive asset is their ability to transform themselves into pure light energy. By doing this, they can avoid any damage and travel at speeds greater than any human can imagine. The only downside is that when they are in this form, they cannot engage in any sort of physical assault. Even without magic, Seraphic Assailants are some of the most powerful warriors in the world. As masters of weapons and martial arts, Seraphic Assailants are almost impossible to best in combat. On top of that, they can combine their light magic with their physical abilities to overpower even the most ferocious giants, monsters, and opponents. Although Seraphic Assailants have such incredible power, they hardly ever use it. Instead, they believe it's wiser to fight and use their strength only when absolutely necessary. Seraphic Assailants fight solely for the side of light and are arguable the purest, wisest, and most just of all warriors.
Congratulations on reaching this powerful and sagacious class!
This is a special class and requires a very high amount of Angelic Luminosity. You scored 72% on this variable!
The Genie, impressed by your choices, has granted you the Hidden Power of Angelic LuminosityMy class.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on May 30, 2015 11:14:34 GMT -6
Okay, so let's find GX a class.
Just so you know, since the categories for magic in this are very broad, my Jester doesn't use the broad "light magic" of Regulus and such. It's more like a Heavenly Body magic that uses starlight.
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Post by Neo on May 30, 2015 11:21:54 GMT -6
Okay, so let's find GX a class. Just so you know, since the categories for magic in this are very broad, my Jester doesn't use the broad "light magic" of Regulus and such. It's more like a Heavenly Body magic that uses starlight. IIRC, Heavenly Body magic is actually described in the series as being a special combination of Light and Dark magic. So that fits. Am I allowed to give GX hints on how to get the Phoenix class? Just small ones?
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Post by Golurkcanfly on May 30, 2015 11:29:07 GMT -6
Okay, so let's find GX a class. Just so you know, since the categories for magic in this are very broad, my Jester doesn't use the broad "light magic" of Regulus and such. It's more like a Heavenly Body magic that uses starlight. IIRC, Heavenly Body magic is actually described in the series as being a special combination of Light and Dark magic. So that fits. Am I allowed to give GX hints on how to get the Phoenix class? Just small ones? I'd say no, as to not influence the outcome.
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