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Post by empireoffire on Aug 25, 2015 17:16:05 GMT -6
And the romance in FT isn't bad, just the arguments and shipping wars. There's just something about them that seems rushed and -- dare I say -- forced at times, not to mention that OrionXEden occasionally feels like it's just retreading ground already done by VincentXElia elsewhere. But that's just my personal opinion.
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 17:17:02 GMT -6
"Romance", Neo. Quotations are important. Proper communication is important, Golurk. We've talked about this. It sounded like you were referring to all Austur romance in general, not just the infamous pages.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Aug 25, 2015 17:20:21 GMT -6
That's what the quotations were for though
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 17:23:56 GMT -6
I have so much to say to that, Emppy, I really, really do. But I need a nap. So I'll just say that real romance is situational. Just like OrionxEden. It only seems rushed or forced because you don't have a lot of life experience in that area. Not trying to pull the age card, it's just the truth.
I'll OZ, FT, and FE when I wake up.
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 25, 2015 17:43:21 GMT -6
I'm... pitchin' my tent in Emmpy's camp here. Feels like the cart came before the horse a bit.
Of course, Leone/Hecate's being forced harder than... something-something Star Wars, so.
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:01:03 GMT -6
How so? They aren't even a couple yet, let alone in love, or anything like that. Their romance has barely even started.
Romance is situational. Not time based.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 18:08:34 GMT -6
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 25, 2015 18:09:39 GMT -6
I just have some... opinions about sex which I realize are just that, opinions. So. Not going to open that can o' worms beyond saying "Cart. Horse. Opinion."
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:12:48 GMT -6
X. Don't. No one is arguing. No one is offended.
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:24:10 GMT -6
I'm way, way too tired for this... Too much I want to say, and I can't think of how to do so, because I'm too tired. Argh.
So. I'll just say this: Sex and romance are two completely different things. While it is usually a product of romance, it is not romance itself. Romance is entirely situational. The situations of Orion and Eden- their lives, personalities, events happening around them, etc- lead them to that.
GX and I have not had a chance to build them as a couple yet. After the Wyvern King's quest, we are going to be spending quite a bit of time building them as a couple, and having them learn about each other. We could not do that earlier in the RP because, 1), how the RP is structured, and 2), because the one night stand only happened a week ago in-story.
While your're free to have your opinions, they aren't rushed in the slightest, even if it seems like that.
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Post by empireoffire on Aug 25, 2015 18:28:06 GMT -6
Notice that I'm not even saying anything more in response to it, because this RP should be able to go a week before another pointless argument.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 18:29:33 GMT -6
X. Don't. No one is arguing. No one is offended. What????
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 25, 2015 18:33:09 GMT -6
You're not going to change my opinion on this one, Neo, but I'm also not going to make a big deal about it.
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:36:22 GMT -6
Well maybe, Emppy, if literally everyone and their mother didn't constantly criticize every single thing I do, without even knowing everything, then maybe I wouldn't feel like I have to explain myself so much.
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Post by empireoffire on Aug 25, 2015 18:36:58 GMT -6
Well maybe, Emppy, if literally everyone and their mother didn't constantly criticize every single thing I do, without even knowing everything, then maybe I wouldn't feel like I have to explain myself so much. What part of "We're not having this argument" do you not understand?
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:38:42 GMT -6
I'm still trying to understand how it could possibly be seen as rushed and forced, when we haven't even had a chance to do anything yet.
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:40:29 GMT -6
Whatever. I think I'll just go back to not giving a damn about what any of you think. It will make things so much easier.
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Post by GX1997 on Aug 25, 2015 18:46:51 GMT -6
It's not that they're arguing, Neo. And they can't know the things we've been planning, so they're limited to forming opinions based on their own observations. As you said, we've yet to starting building their actual relationship. As such, don't worry about the way things are now. It's just first impressions right now, as should be expected.
There's no hostility or anything. That said, let's just drop the subject entirely since there's no point in this continuing since there's currently nothing to discuss precisely because the development has yet to begin.
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Post by SummerCrow on Aug 25, 2015 18:50:02 GMT -6
And with that, I think we've transitioned from "not having an argument" to "having an argument." Because somehow "not giving a damn what I think" pushes my asshole button.
I ain't a fan of drinking. Being drunk. Whatever. But I tolerate it. People like different things. I ain't a fan of one-night stands. But I tolerate it. People have biological/romantic urges.
Cross the two, and it's something that I very much am against. And I find the concept of a drunken one-night stand kickstarting a relationship to be unhealthy. Or, in terms of writing, forced. Of course, something starting badly doesn't mean it will end badly.
And now I'm being all holier-than-thou. But whatever. While I'm on the subject, PM incoming Neo. Completely unrelated, other than being FT planning.
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Post by Neo on Aug 25, 2015 18:59:41 GMT -6
One, and I've said this many times, they weren't s*** faced. They both knew exactly what they were doing at the time, and had full control of their faculties. You seem to have a completely different view of the scene than what actually happened. Two, it didn't kickstart their relationship.
Read what GX posted. Nothing has kickstarted their relationship yet because they aren't in one.
Now, I am going to drop this subject, because I really am starting to get offended. I'm sick and tired of being constantly criticized.
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