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Post by empireoffire on Feb 17, 2017 7:00:48 GMT -6
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Feb 17, 2017 8:04:50 GMT -6
So, it seems that this nerfs Synchros, XYZs, and Fusions hard.
Like, extremely so.
But I think it's a good change. It will help even out the pace of games, and it makes positions on the field actually do something, but it makes old decks that rely on the Extra Deck largely impossible to use without breaking archetype.
To sum things up, without Link monsters, you can only have 1 Extra Deck monster on the field. Link Monsters are special summoned from the Extra Deck similar to self-Summoning Fusions (like N'tiss or Gladiator Beasts) by fulfilling their requirements, but can count themselves as multiple monsters for summoning more Link Monsters (So, like a faster, easier, more universal Utopia). Link Monsters are also Attack-only, and the arrows on the cards point to other monster zones, which then can be used to summon other Extra Deck monsters.
Pendulum Zones are now normal spell/trap zones, and only function as pendulum zones per card syntax when a face-up pendulum card is inside.
So, this is probably the hardest "rules reset" that Yugioh has ever had. Everything will change, except lol!Nekroz because rituals.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 17, 2017 12:11:56 GMT -6
This is the first time YGO has changed rules to actually prohibit the way the game was before. I suppose that's the nature of power creep though, that if you inly add to the game it'll just keep getting faster. It is a way of slowing the game down (lol Zoodiacs) but it KILLS Extra Deck swarmers like Fluffals and D/D/D. Absolutely murders the thought of summoning Quasar. Interesting choice to make a whole lot of game totally useless by game mechanics and not obsolescence. But that's the way the game evolves I guess. RIP Fluffals. Hopping to the Cyber Angel or Infernoid bandwagon. Also Neo new lightsworn support monsters "Twilightlords": ygorganization.com/itsover1000/ |
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Feb 17, 2017 12:15:57 GMT -6
I don't mind it too much. It's biggest problem is that it makes decks like Monarchs even stronger (though somewhat unnecessary).
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 17, 2017 12:33:24 GMT -6
Monarchs were only so strong because they prevented counterplay from the extra deck. That's why their meta was against Kozmos. That's also why Nekroz was so strong, because their effets were anti-extra deck.
Actually, Fluffals might be able to play around with zone restriction a bit. Because if you Special Summon from the graveyard it doesn't have to go to the extra zone. It's still possible to make some plays...not as strong plays, but plays nonetheless.
Super Quantums though literally have nothing anymore.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Feb 17, 2017 12:41:24 GMT -6
Monarchs are still very strong since they are simply one of the strongest non-Extra Deck archetypes in terms of Speed and stuff. The only faster non-Extra Deck archetype that I can think of is Igknights, and that's because of Pendulum Summoning, Heart of the Underdog, and their Pendulum effect.
Though, do monsters Pendulum summoned from the Extra Deck need to be summoned in the Extra Zone? What happens to an Extra Deck monster who has been summoned into an artificial zone created by a Link Monster, but then the Link Monster is destroyed?
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Post by Neo on Feb 17, 2017 13:05:11 GMT -6
That's just stupid. Good job, Konami.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Feb 17, 2017 13:06:17 GMT -6
I think it's better than turning up the power creep even more. It's necessary.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 17, 2017 13:07:17 GMT -6
I think you can only summon Pendulum monsters from your extra deck into linked zones. RIP entire mechanic, and RIP Igknights in particular.
Monarchs were inherently inconsistent due to needing both tribute fodder and a tribute. Their main stregth was actually in their search and draw spells, and the field spell lock, and all of those cards got the banlist.
Kozmos are an option, and I think the only time they go Extra Deck is to make Cyber Dragon Infinity sometimes. Infernoids with that Lawnmowing cards are now very strong and will probably be the next meta along with True Dracos (which are like the new Monarchs except they tribute continuous spells and traps as a mechanic).
Blue-Eyes could come back. Dark Magician might have a chance too. Ritual decks (Cyber Angel/Herald) are also inherently buffed by this. If they ever release Minerva the Lightsworns could do things as well potentially.
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Post by Golurkcanfly on Feb 17, 2017 13:10:52 GMT -6
Maybe Aroma will be good.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 17, 2017 15:27:48 GMT -6
Maybe Aroma will be good. Honestly, since they have only one synchro right now, why not? Also I was mistaken about pendulums. The link zones only apply to Fusion, Xyz, Synchro, and Link. You can pendulum face-up from your extra deck as usual THANK GOODNESS. |
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Post by empireoffire on Feb 17, 2017 15:41:33 GMT -6
Monarchs were only so strong because they prevented counterplay from the extra deck. That's why their meta was against Kozmos. That's also why Nekroz was so strong, because their effets were anti-extra deck. Actually, Fluffals might be able to play around with zone restriction a bit. Because if you Special Summon from the graveyard it doesn't have to go to the extra zone. It's still possible to make some plays...not as strong plays, but plays nonetheless. Super Quantums though literally have nothing anymore. Speaking of literally broken decks, Crystal Beasts had their pendulum support go from "very useful" to "dentrimental". |
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Post by empireoffire on Feb 17, 2017 16:21:16 GMT -6
Also, I'm going to laugh my ass off if Senet Switch goes from "joke card" to "staple" because of this.
Or maybe they'll just ban it and avoid ruling problems in the first place.
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 17, 2017 17:17:52 GMT -6
It's still an unsearchable -1 card advantage-wise.
They're going to make a "Super-Senet Switch" and power-creep it instead.
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Post by empireoffire on Feb 17, 2017 17:27:53 GMT -6
It's still an unsearchable -1 card advantage-wise. They're going to make a "Super-Senet Switch" and power-creep it instead. 1) Create Link Monster (let's assume it links two) 2) Summon Extra deck monster in a linked zone. 3) Use Senet Switch to move the Extra Deck monster to the side, into an unlinked zone. 4) You may now summon an additional 2 extra deck monsters. Assuming that it's legal, anyway. |
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Post by HHDeception on Feb 17, 2017 17:46:07 GMT -6
Summoning the Link monster will need 2-3 cards. Senet Switch is another, and then unless one of those last cards is a Zoodiac...
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Actually no. I see it. Ew.
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Post by empireoffire on Mar 12, 2017 12:17:26 GMT -6
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Post by HHDeception on Mar 12, 2017 14:06:47 GMT -6
*Still annoyed Sora and Yuzu won't get ceremonial duels*
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 17:12:08 GMT -6
Hugs the bunny
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Post by HHDeception on Mar 13, 2017 17:28:44 GMT -6
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