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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 18:45:12 GMT -6
Then, he'll show up right as the Elia boss fight ends, just in time to see her turn into a card. I'm sure he'll take seeing Irving tearing off [insert limb here] from Elia in a calm, peaceful manner. Right. I'm going to assume you're joking. But just in case, remember what you promised a while ago? How you promised you would go easy on Irving's crazed form during the fight, because excessively brutal violence against Elia would trigger me? I'm going to hold you to that. I'm very sensitive right now because of something I learned about last night, and if you trigger me, we are going to have a serious problem. Understand?
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Post by empireoffire on Sept 9, 2016 18:50:03 GMT -6
I'm sure he'll take seeing Irving tearing off [insert limb here] from Elia in a calm, peaceful manner. Right. I'm going to assume you're joking. But just in case, remember what you promised a while ago? How you promised you would go easy on Irving's crazed form during the fight, because excessively brutal violence against Elia would trigger me? I'm going to hold you to that. I'm very sensitive right now because of something I learned about last night, and if you trigger me, we are going to have a serious problem. Understand? The most "innocent" method of death I can think of would be strangulation, which basically says a lot about crazed Irving.
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 18:53:59 GMT -6
Okay. You clearly DO NOT understand how serious this is. This is a f****** serious health problem. Either you agree to play ball and be a decent f****** human being and take this seriously, or I am dropping out of OZ right this second. Choose. Now.
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Post by empireoffire on Sept 9, 2016 18:57:25 GMT -6
Okay. You clearly DO NOT understand how serious this is. This is a f****** serious health problem. Either you agree to play ball and be a decent f****** human being and take this seriously, or I am dropping out of OZ right this second. Choose. Now. So gotcha, I'll just let crazed Irving just not get the finishing blow.
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Post by GX1997 on Sept 9, 2016 19:02:36 GMT -6
Idea: Instead of having to go through what would normally amount to death before carding, after taking enough damage characters convert to card form. More or less, after coming to the point of no longer being able to fight back on account of injuries, Elia fades for a few moments before turning into a card.
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 19:05:10 GMT -6
No. That's not going to fly now. Because I don't think you're taking me seriously and I'm not dealing with days upon days of flashbacks and pain just because you decided not to care. You are going to promise me that you will make a conscious effort to tone down your writing and to tone down the violence throughout the entire fight. And if that means you simply don't have Irving become crazed at all, that's exactly what you're going to do.
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Post by empireoffire on Sept 9, 2016 19:15:36 GMT -6
No. That's not going to fly now. Because I don't think you're taking me seriously and I'm not dealing with days upon days of flashbacks and pain just because you decided not to care. You are going to promise me that you will make a conscious effort to tone down your writing and to tone down the violence throughout the entire fight. And if that means you simply don't have Irving become crazed at all, that's exactly what you're going to do. I just said I wasn't going to have crazed Irving deal the finishing blow, and since a lot of the things crazed Irving does would very likely result in a finishing blow with minimal effort, that basically means not touching Elia at all. I'm not going to promise not to go crazed at all because that would take out a good chunk of the point of an entire character, but I was going to write around it to the best of my ability anyway. But if you feel like you're going to get triggered by violence inflicted on Elia regardless, even if it's something obvious like a gunshot, then maybe you shouldn't force your writing into a situation where you would have no choice but to actually read what's going on. Maybe have Vinnie sit it out so that you can just ignore the posts you wouldn't have to read anymore (the ones with warnings on them before the actual writing starts, ideally). EDIT: And before you jump the gun and say I'm not taking you seriously, I am saying that I'm trying to reach a compromise, and point out that if an idea comes at the risk of personal health, then maybe it's better to discard the idea and do something else that doesn't require having to deal with the offending material.
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 19:29:15 GMT -6
Vinnie will be sitting everything out. That's already been determined. I simply need to know the timing for when to post, when I need to have Vinnie realize what's happening, and when he needs to show up.
But as long as you don't make the posts overly descriptive and do anything stupidly brutal, then we won't have a problem.
Ex- Emppy posts: "Irving fired a shot from his rifle."
GX posts: "Elia couldn't dodge in time."
Something like that is perfectly fine.
It's when you post crap like "Crazed!Irving proceeded to tear Elia's arm off, and shoot her point blank in the stomach while she was screaming in pain and fear, causing a shower of blood" that is going to trigger me and make me want to kill you.
I want to be able to read the fight. It's not a lot to ask that you tone down the violence for one fight.
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Post by GX1997 on Sept 9, 2016 19:32:57 GMT -6
I'l help make sure things aren't overboard and can also deal with a lot of things from my end of the writing, by having Elia counter things.
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Post by empireoffire on Sept 9, 2016 19:38:44 GMT -6
Vinnie will be sitting everything out. That's already been determined. I simply need to know the timing for when to post, when I need to have Vinnie realize what's happening, and when he needs to show up. But as long as you don't make the posts overly descriptive and do anything stupidly brutal, then we won't have a problem. Ex- Emppy posts: "Irving fired a shot from his rifle." GX posts: "Elia couldn't dodge in time." Something like that is perfectly fine. It's when you post crap like "Crazed!Irving proceeded to tear Elia's arm off, and shoot her point blank in the stomach while she was screaming in pain and fear, causing a shower of blood" that is going to trigger me and make me want to kill you. I want to be able to read the fight. It's not a lot to ask that you tone down the violence for one fight. We have characters that fight with fire (i.e. burning people alive), sharp and pointy objects, brute physical force (with little finesse, meaning it's usually ugly), bludgeoning tools, electrocution, and a whole bunch of other unsavory methods. It's very hard to write a fight scene of a bunch of people with such powers against one person who's supposed to lose without having more than PG violence. I'm saying that if you're not fully prepared to deal with reading it and writing a scene that involves Vinnie seeing how Elia is beaten up, then maybe you shouldn't do it.
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 19:47:20 GMT -6
Vincent is going to arrive just as Elia turns into a card. He's not going to have enough time to register how badly she's injured, just that it is her. I planned that exactly for that reason.
And no, Emppy, it's actually not as hard as you make it sound. GX will help make sure things don't go overboard, like she said. Yes, it will take a bit more effort than writing willy nilly whatever you please. But that's part of being in a RP with multiple people. Sometimes, you have to work with others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 19:48:17 GMT -6
Well how about this. Me, Crow, and Emppy are working on simple conversations through PM.
Simple solution we do the entire encounter through PM with everyone involved in the fight. That way we write what we have to but if something seems a little to violent GX or someone can point it out before Neo has a chance to have a violent reaction.
Tell me what's wrong if we group PM the encounter with us editing it along the way if we need to.
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Post by empireoffire on Sept 9, 2016 20:00:15 GMT -6
Well, you know your limits better than I do, but remember that you're going to read Elia getting ganged up on by a lot of people who likely won't have an in-story reason to hold back, so be aware of what you're about to get into and don't do something you'll regret.
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 20:08:58 GMT -6
X's suggestion is definitely something that should be considered. GX knows me very well. If she approves of the posts beforehand, then I trust her judgment. As long as no one gets carried away, the posts aren't too descriptive and the violence isn't too brutal, and people actually give GX time to post for Elia and have her respond, then I should be fine.
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Post by empireoffire on Sept 9, 2016 20:37:55 GMT -6
Random world building tip: If the party's short of funds (even though Yuleia will give them a budget), they can collect Komodo dung and sell them for a decent price, since they are sought after as a fantastic fertilizer.
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Post by SummerCrow on Sept 9, 2016 20:52:37 GMT -6
a lot of people who likely won't have an in-story reason to hold back June'll be there. June might see some parallels between Yuelia fighting Ephesia instead of the Abominations and Valeria fighting Carcina instead of the Risen. And considering how she met her husband, maybe won't be so keen on letting people execute people needlessly. Probably will want to talk things out if Elia or Ethan reaches the point of being disabled. Oh. Wait. Armads. Big dragon. I need to think about what'll happen there...
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 20:56:39 GMT -6
Ethan will be a non-issue. He's going to be distracted by Alexus's mooks throughout the battle, and then by the Witch afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 20:56:52 GMT -6
Now that I think about it. Would Armadas have a reaction to Bowser since he's kinda of sorta a dragon/turtle hybrid.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 20:58:34 GMT -6
Ethan will be a non-issue. He's going to be distracted by Alexus's mooks throughout the battle, and then by the Witch afterwards. I was wondering what was going to keep Ethan from interfering with the encounter. Then again why would the witch want only Ethan and not the people actually going inside the tree. Is it because the Witch sees Ethan as a legit threat?
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Post by Neo on Sept 9, 2016 21:10:22 GMT -6
Ethan will be a non-issue. He's going to be distracted by Alexus's mooks throughout the battle, and then by the Witch afterwards. I was wondering what was going to keep Ethan from interfering with the encounter. Then again why would the witch want only Ethan and not the people actually going inside the tree. Is it because the Witch sees Ethan as a legit threat? Yes, that is why. When Ethan sees Elia be defeated, it's going to remind him of what happened to his wife, and he's going to go completely berserk, unleashing his full UB powers. The Witch is going to immediately zoom in on him and attack him, and then we have the Witch VS Ethan battle.
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